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re: Stop blaming the Offensive Line. Its the Quarterback

Posted on 10/9/22 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10115 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 3:30 pm to
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88, 67, 53, and 30 yards.
Always beware the rantard who has to lie to make his point.
67 168 88 208 30 53




Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
15633 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 3:38 pm to
He left out to two "big" games by JJ. Didn't lie if you reread his statement.
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4033 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 3:46 pm to
Well, they are scheming around weaknesses and you’re seeing the results. If JD doesn’t improve, it will only get worse and the offense will become even more predictable.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29270 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 3:53 pm to
I’m convinced Daniels has no clock in his head and cannot anticipate the WR breaks in the routes to throw them open. He can run but as we saw yesterday teams have figured him out and will shut that shite down quickly.

The scheme doesn’t help. The play calls are bad and uncreative. Even worse when Denbrock calls long developing pass plays with a QB who won’t throw the ball deep and get chunk plays as designed.

All in all, it’s a total shite show.
Posted by windmill
Prairieville, La
Member since Dec 2005
7048 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 3:59 pm to
It’s the o-line
Posted by Tigerbowhunter
Lexington, Oklahoma
Member since Sep 2018
74 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 4:01 pm to
The down votes are the ones that have no idea about football the don't get that a quarterback that can't get through his progressions quick enough put way more pressure on an offensive line all they know how to say is well nuss threw a bunch of interceptions
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2144 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 4:06 pm to
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n 2018 and 2019 you had essentially the same OLine at LSU. Yet in 2018 we were an above average SEC team, and 2019 might have been the greatest team in history.


You defeated your own argument. We had same line and same QB. Amazing that players can get better with age and experience.
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
7541 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 4:09 pm to
It is all phases of the offense. It is the decision making by the QB. It is the play calling by the coaching staff. It is the blocking, injuries, and depth to the OL. It is WR's working in routes and catching balls. It even comes down to the previous coaching staffs lack of recruiting at the OL and development.

Almost every play one of these plays a factor into the offense not clicking.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10115 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 8:40 pm to
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He left out to two "big" games by JJ. Didn't lie if you reread his statement.
Uhhh OP below
quote:

in 2011 LSU had an undefeated season thru 9 games, and then Miles switched QBs. By the end of the year, the same OLine wasnt suddenly the reason the team couldnt move the ball. It was the new QB, who had passing games of 88, 67, 53, and 30 yards. The play calls were changed because of who was passing the ball

You're knighting for an idiot.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27973 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:16 pm to
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Always beware the rantard who has to lie to make his point.

Are you really still defending JJ?

I left out a lot of games in my OP

But since you want to get into it, Lee had 1 game below 100 yds that yr. The first game where he had all of 5 practices with the #1s. JJ had 4 games below 100 yds, after 4 yrs of being the starter

Posters arent defending me, they think youre a moron for still defending that level of QB play in the passing game. And as was posted already, both QBs were in the race for SEC Sr QB, and despite being benched, Lee was still awarded the title.

Plus, Lee played in preseaon NFL games. JJ was asked to convert to a receiver. There is no defense of him on any level
Posted by GeauxTigers247
Member since Oct 2019
1563 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:32 pm to
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Our Oline can't run block to save its life


And Denbrock did them zero favors by only calling inside zone against a UT d-line that was literally just shooting the gaps the whole game. No counter plays or any runs to the perimeter.
Posted by LSUAZ
Egypt
Member since Nov 2012
125 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:51 pm to
Lee Won.
Posted by Houtexlandscape
Houston
Member since May 2018
304 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:58 pm to
left side used the lookout block- and i mean yes the QB needs to release the ball in no more than 3 sec. but that whole side of the line graded an F
Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
10179 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:11 pm to
I clearly saw missed blocks and blown assignments on the O Line Saturday that caused sacks, before Daniel's could do or look at anything. It is certainly somewhat on the line.

When he stood behind the line, not rushed, pump faking but not throwing the ball, it was on him, or maybe even the receivers not getting open, or running the wrong routes.

I guess we would have to know every responsibility on the field on a given play. My bet is that it is a collective shite show at times.

They are all in a new system with new teammates and new coaches. They can't be compared to Bama whose system has been in place for 15 years. To expect a well-oiled machine already is unrealistic.
This post was edited on 10/9/22 at 10:14 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73524 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:12 pm to
Lol. Throw downfield And maybe it would help. And back off teams rolling all 11 within 10 yards of the ball pre snap. shite can your agenda and think.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67091 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:19 pm to
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I listed 4 games in 2011 where the QB couldnt get to 100 yards passing, and you try to single the most embarrassing as some kind of defense


No one was shitting on the OL outside the Alabama games. The OL was not getting “blamed” for beating UGA 42-10 or Arkansas 41-17.

In the games you were talking about we were running all over teams.

Also JJ got so much fricking heat. Well deserved. But the OL wasn’t good either against Alabama.
This post was edited on 10/9/22 at 10:26 pm
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11230 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:25 pm to
Actually the more I think about it how do you scheme around it? The Raven’s have a mauling physical o line to scheme for their QBs athleticism. We sort of have the worst of both worlds

We have quick routes all game he doesn’t rip the ball
This post was edited on 10/9/22 at 10:26 pm
Posted by Superfluous Tiger
Houston
Member since Nov 2021
665 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:27 pm to
In 2019 you had CEH. He saved Joe’s arse many a time picking up blocks that the O-line missed. He didn’t get enough credit for that.

In 2011 it wouldn’t have mattered who the QB was. The entire team was unprepared and quit in the first quarter.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10115 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:38 pm to
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I left out a lot of games in my OP
How convenient.
quote:

By the end of the year, the same OLine wasnt suddenly the reason the team couldnt move the ball.
Not defending JJ, just calling you out on BS info. The best 3 game stretch of Total O happened right after Lee shite the bed at Bama and lost the start. 474, 458 and 494yds.
Admittedly add the worst was there also vs Bama at 92yds.
Posted by ELchapoLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2017
1458 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 7:05 am to
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There were several sacks where the OL offered 0 resistance. No QB could have avoided them.
This dumb because in the same breath it was several sacks where everyone seen it coming pre snap. JD just didn’t make the adjustments and change the protection either.
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