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re: Softball game 3: #16LSU 1 VS #11Tennessee 0Final TIGERS WIN!
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:05 pm to saintsfan22
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:05 pm to saintsfan22
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Sanchez's SEC OBP is higher than Doyle, Serret, and Griggs.
Sanchez has been equally bad out of the SEC as she has in SEC play where the others have been pretty good out of conference. She has the worst overall numbers, offensively and defensively, of any player with more than 5 at bats and its not close.
This is why I say no one has done less with this much opportunity. Griggs, Doyle and Serrett murder average or below average pitching. Sanchez has not had a single stretch of great play on either side of the ball this entire season.
If I need a ground ball fielded at third I would pick Doyle over Sanchez. If I needed a hit I would pick Doyle over Sanchez. Maybe you would pick Sanchez and I respect that. We can agree to disagree on which of these 3rd baseman bring the best upside to the table for the short term and the long term.
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Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:08 pm to Tigerbait357
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Taryn Antoine is going to have to be converted into a right fielder in reality. If not she might not see any time at all, we will need her bat immediately
Don't get your hopes to high. I have seen her for a few years with multiple at bats and she is not a more advanced hitter than many of the freshman that came in this year. She is fast but not on the Dawson/Andrews level of speed and in my opinion not nearly as polished at the plate as either.
I do believe she will be a terrific player but not immediately unless she is just given the spot and allowed to grow into it. I do believe she will be an outfield convert for sure though.
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:13 pm to LSUAshlyn
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Griggs, Doyle and Serrett murder average or below average pitching.
But how relevant is that now? Outside of maybe the first game of the regional when are we facing below average pitching again?
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If I need a ground ball fielded at third I would pick Doyle over Sanchez
That's nice but Doyle can't play 1st and 3rd during games.
This post was edited on 4/23/17 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:20 pm to Tigerbait357
I think you might be looking past something, something Ashlynn been trying to say...there are some players that are going to start, even if they are outplayed during the offseason, they are going to be given a chance.
Quinn is one of those players. I am glad she got her chance, but that is how its going to work. Thornhill may be one of those players, she will be a junior next year, and she will probably get a chance to start.
Sanchez will be out there somewhere....next year as well. She will be a junior.
I just think Beth thinks a lot about seniority, and leadership.
Thornhill needs work at the plate, but she is a natural softball player and she isnt far from where she needs to be.
Was just thinking about this today, if you notice, when Thornhill bats, right before she launches, she loads up by stepping forward and not taking her hands and the bat with her, then she launches. Thats how it is supposed to be for maximum power, but for her, I'd have her launching the bat without pre-load, see if that makes her swing shorter.
Thornhill is a better fielder,in the case of ground balls hit into the outfield, than Andrews. Andrews approaches a grounder at the wrong angle sometimes. Just saying.
Quinn is one of those players. I am glad she got her chance, but that is how its going to work. Thornhill may be one of those players, she will be a junior next year, and she will probably get a chance to start.
Sanchez will be out there somewhere....next year as well. She will be a junior.
I just think Beth thinks a lot about seniority, and leadership.
Thornhill needs work at the plate, but she is a natural softball player and she isnt far from where she needs to be.
Was just thinking about this today, if you notice, when Thornhill bats, right before she launches, she loads up by stepping forward and not taking her hands and the bat with her, then she launches. Thats how it is supposed to be for maximum power, but for her, I'd have her launching the bat without pre-load, see if that makes her swing shorter.
Thornhill is a better fielder,in the case of ground balls hit into the outfield, than Andrews. Andrews approaches a grounder at the wrong angle sometimes. Just saying.
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:26 pm to Bhs83
Andrews is not in cf because she takes really poor angles to the ball a lot, not that she's bad defensively, she makes tremendous plays but she can be a little suspect in that area. Griggs had a great arm, Andrews weak spot had to be that, she's just erratic with her arm.
Regardless of the players starting next year, we will need to see substantially changes in philosophy at the plate. We need improvements, we can't just hope to put up one or two runs a game and hope it's enough. Teams across the SEC know how to pitch us and know our weak tendencies at the plate, that along with poor mechanics is just killing us.
I think we have a lot of players with great tools but they really need help! If they can get that help we will be in great hands!
Regardless of the players starting next year, we will need to see substantially changes in philosophy at the plate. We need improvements, we can't just hope to put up one or two runs a game and hope it's enough. Teams across the SEC know how to pitch us and know our weak tendencies at the plate, that along with poor mechanics is just killing us.
I think we have a lot of players with great tools but they really need help! If they can get that help we will be in great hands!
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:31 pm to LSUAshlyn
Doyle has limited range of movement. 1st is the best position for her.
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:34 pm to LSUAshlyn
They are 2 different players so you can't compare them at the plate imo.
And the issue is, Dawson is from Louisiana. 1/2 the team are Louisiana girls and they garner less than 1/4 of the total playing time. She won't play regularly until it's absolutely needed.
And the issue is, Dawson is from Louisiana. 1/2 the team are Louisiana girls and they garner less than 1/4 of the total playing time. She won't play regularly until it's absolutely needed.
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:34 pm to Tigerbait357
Well I've seen Antoine once on TV at a club tournament with the Texas Glory and a team from Cali (idk maybe SoCal As) and she looked like the best player on the field. She slapped for a hit and hit a home run. Also, Antoine is already an Outfielder. She plays Center Field and I think she'll transition to Right field fine. Also, you still have Clair Weinberger and Kara Goff, two other players who might battle for that right field spot.
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:41 pm to LSUAshlyn
And here is the main issue. Aside from Serrett & now Andrews who has been given the time to grow into a spot out of these last 2 classes? Confidence is so important, and this staff does not instill it in any player they haven't deemed everyday starters. That's why the rest aren't hitting and will continue to struggle going forward
This post was edited on 4/23/17 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 4/23/17 at 9:55 pm to paintthecorner
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And the issue is, Dawson is from Louisiana. 1/2 the team are Louisiana girls and they garner less than 1/4 of the total playing time. She won't play regularly until it's absolutely needed.
What?
Being from Louisiana does not mean you won't play. Beth happens to recruit a lot of highly recruited kids out of states which is a good thing. Who are you specifically referring to?
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:01 pm to Tigerbait357
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Who are you specifically referring to?
Seems like that nonsense traces back to Bourg not playing. She's hitting like .290 at Nicholls so can't really say she's outperforming Quinn.
This post was edited on 4/23/17 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:03 pm to Tigerbait357
No one in particular. Just something I've notice over an extended period of watching the program, maybe I'm wrong. You won't change my opinion though.
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:11 pm to paintthecorner
Some of our top players just happen to come from out of state. Dawson will continue to play, it will all work itself out. Bianka Bell, Sandra Simmons, Kloss, Jaquish, Doyle, Walljasper, Hoover, Smith, Andrews, Springfield, Quinn, Griggs all just happen to be out of state and they are all really good players. Nothing against Louisiana softball but Texas and Cali are hot beds of talent. Not to say Louisiana doesnt but Torina goes everywhere.
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:21 pm to Tigerbait357
I agree those states are, just saying when roughly 1/2 the roster is from in state, you'd think more than 1 kid (who happens to be AA talent) could garner significant playing time. Maybe not though
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:25 pm to Tigerbait357
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Some of our top players just happen to come from out of state. Dawson will continue to play, it will all work itself out. Bianka Bell, Sandra Simmons, Kloss, Jaquish, Doyle, Walljasper, Hoover, Smith, Andrews, Springfield, Quinn, Griggs all just happen to be out of state and they are all really good players. Nothing against Louisiana softball but Texas and Cali are hot beds of talent. Not to say Louisiana doesnt but Torina goes everywhere.
past pitchers also and other players, mack, fico, turner, langoni, and on and on
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:27 pm to Bayou Bum
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Bayou Bum
come on, i wanna hear you cry about our lack of talent and you wanting to fire howard. come on let's hear it!
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:33 pm to Fat Bastard
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come on, i wanna hear you cry about our lack of talent and you wanting to fire howard. come on let's hear it!
It made no sense to say we don't have talent then say we have talent that isn't coached well. So which is it?
I think we have talent, we still got a lot of things to clean up with the young ones but I think our offensive struggles isn't necessarily due to talent. I see teams all over the place that have done more with less than us. We have a lot of players that have the tools in the shed, we need to show them how to properly utilize them.
Also Louisiana softball produce a lot of solid players, a lot lack a lot of your basic fundamentals that aren't cleaned up before college.
Thats why its critical to fix these bad habits when they get to campus. Its not like they don't have the ability at all but you got to make those adjustments
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:25 am to Fat Bastard
What's funny is that you can't come up with one good reason to keep him. He is a HORRIBLE hitting coach. Actually that isn't just my opinion, but many coaches opinions, people that you would be surprised to hear it from. I heard one dad today at the game actually say "name 1 player that has gotten better since they for here" The 3 players dads laughed and said...you know we cant.
However, this team has 7 to 10 players not including pitchers that have the talent to play in the SEC. They need to step up the recruting!
However, this team has 7 to 10 players not including pitchers that have the talent to play in the SEC. They need to step up the recruting!
Posted on 4/24/17 at 8:08 am to Bayou Bum
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Actually that isn't just my opinion, but many coaches opinions,
who? name them. Next time I am at one of their camps with one of my players or my daughter i will talk to them about it and get their respected opinions. Or maybe when i am emailing coaches about possible round robins and making sure they received the players profiles I will ask them about Howard.
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I heard one dad today
and here we goooooooo...... a dad.......i have heard lots of dads say things for years. Didn't make them all right. Doesn't mean they were all wrong either. opinions are like assholes. I highly doubt darrell said anything the way bailey is hitting. Darrell is a damn good coach also. Better yet, next time i see howard at the CSC i will relay your feelings to him. ok? I will let you know what he says!
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What's funny is that you can't come up with one good reason to keep him
i posted links before showing the improvement he brought to the program from where it was before him. I never said they were not struggling now or have hit a dip with these young players. You do not want to give him credit for any good hitters that left/graduated. typical. You are a hypocrite as i pointed out in a previous post of yours where you said we had no talent yet would not blame beth then said fire dobson! so who's fault is it? beth for no talent? or howard for no development?
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 8:46 am
Posted on 4/24/17 at 8:25 am to Tigerbait357
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Tigerbait357
let's observe some more and make sure we have empirical evidence we have hit a ceiling under him before we throw him under the bus, run him over, and set him on fire. bayou bum will probably want beth fired the second she does not make a WCWS. what a joke.
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 8:27 am
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