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So, a guy who worked at Tulane, TAMU, & now Tulsa...
Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:44 am
Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:44 am
Where's a Recruiting Coordinator, mind you, admits that he was offered a kid for $80 Grr by a street agent.
He never told his head coach. He never told his Compliance Department. He never told his Athletics Director. He never told anyone at the NCAA.
Instead, he waited to tell ESPN Investigative Journalist Kelly Naqi, three years later.
Naqi, by the way, came to the Worldwide Leader after a humbling yet ultimately elusive stint with OJ Simpson, where she assisted the fallen former gridiron star in his hunt for "The Real Killers".
Gimme a break.
He never told his head coach. He never told his Compliance Department. He never told his Athletics Director. He never told anyone at the NCAA.
Instead, he waited to tell ESPN Investigative Journalist Kelly Naqi, three years later.
Naqi, by the way, came to the Worldwide Leader after a humbling yet ultimately elusive stint with OJ Simpson, where she assisted the fallen former gridiron star in his hunt for "The Real Killers".
Gimme a break.
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Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:48 am to GFunk
This shite is getting ridiculous.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:49 am to filmmaker45
I think if we keep starting new threads on it, it will not seem as ridiculous though. 
Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:50 am to filmmaker45
Dude never coached at Tulane...
Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:54 am to filmmaker45
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This shite is getting ridiculous.
All it takes is a tad bit of common sense. What surprises me is that people who are actual public figures, like ESPN's Naqi, would put something like this out there with such blatant holes.
I mean, where's the obvious follow up or redirect off the question of why didn't you turn this in?
He says, "Oh, well I was going to recruit him without him." Wrong, Acehole. It's an NCAA violation NOT to report that to your Compliance & the NCAA.
This guy is a recruiting coordinator at a FBS Program, with experience in the Big XII. Either he knows the rules, or the story is no longer Lyles offering Peterson, but how this guy is a recruiting coordinator for a program, without knowing the obvious rules regarding recruitment of potential NCAA FCS student-athletes?
I don't care, to be quite honest. Scam Newton & Auburn won their Scampionship, and while I'm not naive-heck, we used Lyles a ton for guys like Peterson, Toliver, LaFell, etc-so did teams like Miami, TAMU, Oregon, Auburn, Alabama, Florida etc.
The NCAA is going to go after Lyles. Because the truth is that if they tried to go after everyone he and his ilk dealt with, they'd make the FCS landscape look like the immediate surroundings of the Fukishima Nuclear Power Plant.
This post was edited on 3/31/11 at 11:56 am
Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:56 am to GFunk
He never coached at Tulane. In the other thread, the OP intentionally changed the sentence "recruiting coordinator and DB coach at the University of Tulsa" to "assistant coach at Tulane University" because he's an idiot.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:57 am to GFunk
If you dont believe this stuff is true you are an ignoramus. Amazing, just like the Bama idiots, Auburn idiots, Kentucky idiots defending Coach Cal, we all accepted this was common knowledge for years. But now that some people have uttered LS and U in this stuff, it's all bullshite. Yeah right, like i have said before I hope everyone who is doing this gets caught and burned, even if it's us. I am sick of this crap.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 11:58 am to Sophandros
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Dude never coached at Tulane...
You're right. Saw a header on Google News in passing and must've confused Tulsa with Tulane.
My b, Soph.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 12:03 pm to DeeHorton
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If you dont believe this stuff is true you are an ignoramus.
Never said I don't believe the street agent stuff is true. Will Lyles is real, and Lord knows he didn't get paid $25,000 for DVD's.
This specific story is incredibly dubious because there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of cross-examination of the source itself. It's just, "gimme the headline, and let me run with it."
Not so much investigative journalism, and more yellow journalism.
Yeah, I'm biased. I'm LSU, we all are. But, I'm not naive. Hundred dollar handshakes HAPPEN. Cannon got extra benefits, if you believe the old timers who say folks would fill his helmet on his way off the field as he carried it.
I'm just saying that the element of Lyles & the street agents are being gone after. No way they can go after all of these schools with the COI's limited resources.
Heck, the COI-Committee on Infractions-had to wait until USC's court stuff with Lloyd Lake & Co ended up before they moved their case forward against Southern Cal for Reggie Bush because they had such limited staff that they wanted to wait for court transcripts and official records because it was as if the work was already done for them.
Just saying that the source is questionable, yes I know it happens, no I'm not stupid enough to think LSU was immune to take the same tastes that EVERYONE was.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 12:07 pm to GFunk
A lot of the same dubious charachters and/or stories implicated Bam and other SEC schools during the Means stuff, I saw the NCAA files on them and most ended up being true. Same will be the case here. Maybe you are right about that one particular guy or story, but I doubt it. All this stuff rings true and is consistent with what goes on. Like I said, I hope everyone guilty gets busted, I dont care if its us or not. I hope we are innocent or mostly innocent but who knows.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 12:07 pm to GFunk
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I am sick of this crap.
No need to be here then.
I don't think that everyone is naive to the college landscape. But why would I indict my school when no one else is and there is no evidence?
That like the neighborhood tattle tale saying your kid did weed with some other kids on a day you know for a fact he was with you somewhere else and then you punish your kid anyway because you "know" that he's gonna probably experiment with it one day?
How about we all shut the F up and stop eating our own and see what the hell plays out?
If we violated rules, we pay for it.
I just don't understand the jackasses on here turning on our own when there is no evidence.
Coaches deserve at least the idea that they are above board until we find evidence they aren't or what's the freaking point of any of it? Then, why not let's just freaking cheat like hell and see if we get caught? You jerks seem to think LSU cheats like hell anyway.
You people kill me.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 12:10 pm to extremetigerfanatic
I said IF, and since I have a life it's not really a huge piece of my arse either way. This is entertainment, I have just as much fun when we win as I do watching all the idiots in Tiger Stadium and on here have a coronary when we lose. I just dont like educational institutions being so hypocritical and paying gazzilions to coaches and charging thousands for tickets. It's unseemly. So by being unseemly they have forfeited the benefit of the doubt and that applies across the board to all of the Div 1 NCAA schools, including my alma mater
Posted on 3/31/11 at 1:33 pm to DeeHorton
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If you dont believe this stuff is true you are an ignoramus
Why would an asst. coach not report to his school that a player he was after as part of his job was being shopped around by a street agent for $80,000 but then continue to recruit the player?
You don't question that and if you, doesn't that that pretty much make you question the asst. coach whole story?
Posted on 3/31/11 at 1:46 pm to Lonnie4LSU
it's simple, the head coach usually has one assistant designated to deal with this who NEVER passes on the details to the head coach or even handles the money himself. That's the way it works. There has to be one person on the staff to the the go between between the alums who pay and the players/staff. That's the way it is set up. If they could do it with zero coaches even having knowledge they would, but it just cant work that way. That's why.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 3:16 pm to DeeHorton
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like i have said before I hope everyone who is doing this gets caught and burned, even if it's us. I am sick of this crap.
why? who is being harmed? So what if some booster with more money than sense wants to give some kid money to play football where the booster went to school 30 years ago. The money doesn't mae the kids better players. Top guys like Peterson or Newton are going to go to some big school.
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