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Posted on 10/6/14 at 5:12 pm to UpToPar
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valentine is literally the only person who even comes close to being able to play nose guard. IF we switched to a 3-4 (which we're not going to do) we would have to flip a backup O-lineman to play NG.
i agree that valentine is the only natural fit for a nose tackle, but lacouture, m johnson, gilmore, and q thomas are all north of 300 lbs., which is what you first need from someone to be an NT. we would recruit differently, but i don't think we'd be completely without if we were to transition into a 3-4 with the personnel that we already have (whether or not they'd be ideal in that system, i do think that we could run the system with who we've got).
to everyone else: the point of my post is not "should we change the whole defense overnight because we lost 2 games?" no, i'm raising the broader subject of defensive scheme because times are changing but our defense isn't and that shows on the field more and more each year.
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The line and the backers suck. -Broham
yes, they've underperformed. my point, though, is that having more players who aren't locked horns with the OL at the start of every snap would allow us to use more of our speed, since chavis doesn't lean on the blitz.
furthermore, i know that the switch would be "brutal." but what we're seeing is already brutal, so that isn't a legit counter.
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What he did to Oregon in their prime when Chip Kelly was there, could not have been done by anyone else including Saban. -offshoretrash
mingo was not a normal 4-3 DE. that dude ran down lamichael james, who runs a 4.45, from behind in the backfield. mingo was better than a prototypical 4-3 DE or a 3-4 DE/LB. it's hard to compare a defense apples to apples when we had him on our DL and we were fielding an all-time great secondary. so, while the scheme was the same, i don't think that game necessarily accurately represents the potency of chavis' 4-3 against a spread offense.
what irks me most is that, while we may not currently have the personnel to run a 3-4, it seems that we also don't have the personnel to run the 4-3.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 5:14 pm to TigerintheNO
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If we go to a 3-4 who is going to play NG?
If you don't have a nose guard you don't have a 3-4 defense. LSU doesn't have a nose guard.
Not that I'm advocating we move to a 3-4 because its dumb in college IMO against all these spread offenses, but Valentine is 380 lbs and would easiy be the NG.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 5:21 pm to FreddieMac
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FreddieMac
durp.
just because i posted this topic today doesn't mean that i'm overreacting or panicking. i've had this conversation with a few people IRL as far back as last year. if you think, though, that now isn't the time for discussing what could improve the defense after it has allowed 1,136 yards and 75 points in TWO SEC games, then when is?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 5:25 pm to SabiDojo
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I say we move Welter to DE or Safety.
Les all but said in the presser today that he is moving to the sideline...
Posted on 10/6/14 at 5:27 pm to thunderbird1100
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Not that I'm advocating we move to a 3-4 because its dumb in college IMO
why is it dumb? i'm not flaming -i'm really interested to know why you think it doesn't work when there are quite a few college teams who use it an are successful. and i think that it's also slightly appealing to recruits because the 3-4 is popular in the NFL.
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