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re: SEC refs targeting LSU?
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:28 am to moneyg
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:28 am to moneyg
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How about overturning the spot on the field on that 3rd down play on Etlings run. Video evidence was very inconclusive
nah. That was conclusive and the right call.
It was undoubtedly the right call, but they never showed a 'conclusive' shot of it. If they were being consistent, they'd have deferred to the call on the field - which I agree was erroneous.
But in every case I recall, there have been obvious incorrect calls go against LSU - other games, not this one - where no camera angle showed 'conclusive' evidence and the erroneous call was allowed to stand.
As I understand it, they are not allowed to use cues from one angle to interpret "where the ball really is" from another angle. They have to have the angle that absolutely shows the correct situation.
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Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:30 am to moneyg
We need to put videos together of all the calls each week. By we, I mean someone that is competent enough to do this as a member of TD (not me or our coaching staff).
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:32 am to BayouCowboy
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One, the replay officials had to see.
Of course they saw. I'm sure that the Bama Alumni Association in Birmingham (SEC Refs) said to each other, "Watch how we screw LSU on this obvious call!"
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:37 am to INFIDEL
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The ejection of the LSU player was targeting and was the right call.
Yes, it was but only under present rule terminology.
Just like there is "incidental contact" in the NFL and a difference between "roughing a punter" and "running into a punter" there needs to be a separation between "targeting" and "incidental targeting." Just like Dillon's hit they are quite often accidental. The present rule verbiage needs correcting...IMO.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:41 am to Icansee4miles
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And ejection for a questionable targeting but not a landed punch is also horrible
Actually, two - well a slap, then a punch - then called the victim to offset the penalty, too.
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 11:18 am
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:57 am to Ace Midnight
Etling's helmet was detached from being targeted, apparently his head must be detached too for it to be a personal foul.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:19 am to shawnlsu
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Troy, but we got fricked at the end of the first half.
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Nah, that was legit
If you are going to bitch about bad calls, you need to be fair or your argument means nothing.
Oh, so you think Troy would have been able to get an entirely different personnel group onto the field, lineup and kick a field goal with 1-2 secs on the clock? How did that work out for LSU against Auburn last year? You cant be serious.
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Yesterday's game was an abomination
Agree.
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 11:20 am
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:19 am to TrueTigerTale
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Etling's helmet was detached from being targeted, apparently his head must be detached too for it to be a personal foul.
Williams got facemasked, too. They didn't call it, I guess, because the visor deflected the hand, but he was tackled by the opening in the helmet - which is a foul.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:22 am to TrueTigerTale
There were very obvious misses yesterday, but we did get the benefit of the doubt on the long Chark catch where he and the defender battled for the ball. That was the biggest call and we needed it.
I don't know how the refs missed the guy going out of bounds that many times, but even more so, how the hell did our coaches miss it???
I don't know how the refs missed the guy going out of bounds that many times, but even more so, how the hell did our coaches miss it???
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 11:36 am
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:25 am to TrueTigerTale
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Correct, SEC refs appear to be at their worse for Aub games with Bama a close second
It appears that Alabama, Florida and Auburn get the most benefit from SEC officiating against any opponent. But it does seem that anytime SEC officials are in ANY LSU game there are multiple, highly questionable calls against LSU. Especially in crucial situations like 3rd down conversions and TDs.
When LSU gets an officiating crew from another conference I could maybe pick out one bad call per game against LSU. Which would be a more reasonable number accounting for human error and mistakes. When there are that many officials on the field for maybe 100 plays, instant replay, and instant replay officials in a booth watching it on TV then there is no excuse for more than maybe 2 or 3 missed calls per game total and the statistics should reveal that number fairly evenly distributed among the teams when accounting for sample size error.
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 11:56 am
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:28 am to Big EZ Tiger
We need to reexamine to one with the moonshot. Pics please
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:29 am to TrueTigerTale
I usually don't get into REF threads but they were A bit overboard yesterday.......
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:30 am to TrueTigerTale
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SEC refs targeting LSU
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:30 am to Sull
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How about overturning the spot on the field on that 3rd down play on Etlings run. Video evidence was very inconclusive. Pathetic
Dude. Get real...
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:32 am to NOSTRODAMUS
Agreed! That was horrendous. You would think someone/anyone could have changed that outcome. I think it was a makeup call from the Chark "catch." Fla. would probably have scored anyway but it was one of the worst I've seen a while. 4 steps? That's ridiculous.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:47 am to Bayou
The SEC Commish holds Foley in much higher regard than Alleva. Publicly praised Foley's handling of the hurricane last year and criticized Alleva. UF is second only to Bama in favoritism from the SEC office.
Does that mean the refs were instructed to screw LSU yesterday? Probably not, but it doesn't change the fact that the head of officiating will turn a blind eye.
Does that mean the refs were instructed to screw LSU yesterday? Probably not, but it doesn't change the fact that the head of officiating will turn a blind eye.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:49 am to ChineseBandit58
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As I understand it, they are not allowed to use cues from one angle to interpret "where the ball really is" from another angle. They have to have the angle that absolutely shows the correct situation.
Ive always wondered that and if thats the case its absolutely fricking retarded. Its like theyre stating that the laws of physics dont apply in their world. Every angle should be timestamped and you should be able to pause video and switch to other angles to triangulate the positioning of the players and the ball.
Ive paid close attention to this for years and unless the officiating crew have more angles than the broadcast crew then I would have to conclude that replay officials for both the NFL and SEC are incredibly inconsistent in this as Ive seen them both at times compile different angles and at other times refuse to and demand to actually see it conclusively from one angle.
Ive also seen inconsistency in the following scenario that would defy physics:
Frame 1. Player leaning towards goaline carrying ball at shoulder height.
Frame 2. As player is breaking plane with entire upper body from waist up, another player obscures view of ball during this breaking of plane.
Frame 3. With ball still obscured and ball carrier is hit by defender.
Frame 4. Ball carrier driven backwards.
Frame 5. As ball carriers upper body from waist up is then driven out of the plane of the goaline the obscuring player moves away out of view of the ball at a time that the ball carrier no longer posses the ball over the goaline but that the position of the ball still remains at the ball carriers shoulder and in possession of the ball carrier.
In the above scenario its plainly obvious that unless the ball magically disappeared while it was being obscured, then the ball carrier broke the plane with his entire upper body and therefor the ball broke the plane with it, even though you dont actually SEE the ball break the plane. To assume it didnt is to assume that we live in another dimension where down is up and up is down and everything plainly obvious to man from the beginning of time about the physical world suddenly vanishes.
Not buying it. Officials are both corrupt and incompetent and leave opportunities like this to exist along with rules of personal interpretation so that they can be the ultimate arbiters of the game and decide who wins or loses.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:51 am to TrueTigerTale
JA should not have pissed off Stanky plus Ritter is in the replay booth.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:00 pm to TrueTigerTale
From where I sat it shore did look that way.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 12:00 pm to TrueTigerTale
The offsetting personal foul penalties against Gage and the Florida guy, #7 maybe? Was rigoddamndiculous
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