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re: SEC Football Schedule format for 2024 only

Posted on 6/2/23 at 1:05 am to
Posted by Lsudave89
Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
Member since Jun 2021
3527 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 1:05 am to
Laughable
Posted by no1youknow
Member since Jan 2019
82 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 1:23 am to
You’ve got Ga playing Ga
Posted by GonadBallbarion
st augustine, fl.
Member since Aug 2015
1168 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 1:54 am to
No Tennessee no Florida no Georgia no LSU????
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3066 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 1:55 am to
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This is amusing because apparently the schools are having the same fights, as they as of yet have been unable to agree upon the proper format for a 9-game conference schedule, hence this one-year 8 game format.


They didn’t have the votes to do anything in 2024. There is no incentive for the bottom half of the league to agree to add another conference game without additional TV revenues. Once they get that and two additional votes in favor when Texas and Oklahoma join, it will get done.
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
1446 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 5:32 am to
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Votes were not there any of the 9 game scenarios because ESPN wouldn't fork over any more money.

I wouldn’t schedule a ninth game either. But Disney is doing fine.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
9198 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 7:21 am to
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8 Conference games
1 non-conference game with power 5 opponent
Single division
2024 only, conference will reassess after the season.


This is a good idea to see how it goes and then comeback after the season to figure out a better way to construct the conference. But there is no way that a single division is going to last. And honestly thats the part of it I hate the most.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34978 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 7:34 am to
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The only real difference is the single division is a true cream rises to the top model with only one winner.


So 15 conference games?

Otherwise, the shortened schedule makes a difference.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15540 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 7:50 am to
Im not sure how I feel about 1 division....
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68863 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:01 am to
With a 12 team playoff, you can miss the conference championship and still get in.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:18 am to
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The goal is to play every team at least once every 2 years. You accomplish that with either 1&7 or 3&6.



That goal isn't that big of a deal to me. I know there will have to be some adjustments with the two new teams,but I'd much rather play in addition to A&M each year, Alabama,Ole Miss than see Missouri,Kentucky and South Carolina more frequently. There has to be a way to maintain more than one current rivalry and play others more frequently.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31173 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:42 am to
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With no divisions SEC championship game no longer needed
Why is it ever needed?
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31173 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:47 am to
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The only real difference is the single division is a true cream rises to the top model with only one winner


What if you have two undefeated teams at the top of the single division? Two 12-0 teams, what is the tiebreaker? Co-champions? Like the old days when a committee determined which SEC school would represent the conference when they had equal records?

In a 16 team single division, each team does not play 7 other teams.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
3925 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 9:01 am to
Too many lazy ones hung out at the pool and bar. Nicky got his way this time; go back next time to approve the no brainer nine game SEC schedule.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3066 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 9:03 am to
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That goal isn't that big of a deal to me. I know there will have to be some adjustments with the two new teams,but I'd much rather play in addition to A&M each year, Alabama,Ole Miss than see Missouri,Kentucky and South Carolina more frequently. There has to be a way to maintain more than one current rivalry and play others more frequently.


I agree with you that the 1-7 model sucks. Most teams have more than one primary rival and this system would do far too much damage to the traditions of the conference to be worth the scheduling advantages it brings. That’s why it’s only a temporary solution. They will have a new TV contact in place by at least 2026 and at that point the financial incentives will align to move to a 9 game schedule and a 3-6 model.
This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 11:13 am
Posted by dcw7g
Member since Dec 2003
1979 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 9:50 am to
As an LSU fan I don't care about 8 vs. 9 game schedule. Getting rid of the divisions is what we needed - this finally levels the playing field in the SEC. The only way to frick it up would be to create too many permanent opponents. One is plenty, none is fine. LSU doesn't have any serious rivalry, and as long as we're playing every SEC team every other year I'm good.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4058 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:05 am to
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So 15 conference games?

Otherwise, the shortened schedule makes a difference.

With 2 divisions you don't play 15 conference games, so what's the difference?
This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 10:07 am
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4058 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:20 am to
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What if you have two undefeated teams at the top of the single division? Two 12-0 teams, what is the tiebreaker? Co-champions? Like the old days when a committee determined which SEC school would represent the conference when they had equal records?


Whatever they agree to, just like you do when there is a tie within a division now. This shite ain't hard.
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In a 16 team single division, each team does not play 7 other teams.

In a 16 team 2 division setup, each team does not play 7 other teams from the other division that may be stacked with the majority of the best teams (see GA this year). What I mean by cream rises to the top is that you will not have a 2001 LSU team making the CG. If a single div had been in place then, TN would have played FL in a rematch.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31173 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:52 am to
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Whatever they agree to, just like you do when there is a tie within a division now. This shite ain't hard.


With divisions, they play everyone in the division, so it is infinitely easier for the outcome to be determined by playing on the field. There will never be two undefeated teams in the same division. Trying to make the comparison between determining a winner in a division that requires every team to play one another and a group of 16 teams where you only play 8 of the 15 opponents is a reach at best.

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In a 16 team 2 division setup, each team does not play 7 other teams from the other division that may be stacked with the majority of the best teams (see GA this year). What I mean by cream rises to the top is that you will not have a 2001 LSU team making the CG. If a single div had been in place then, TN would have played FL in a rematch.


Your reference to the 2001 CG doesn't apply in your scenario. You stated:

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So? You don't have to have a 4 team playoff just like you don't have to have a CG in a single division.

The only real difference is the single division is a true cream rises to the top model with only one winner.


If you had stated to take the top two teams to the CG then it applies.

And while I can see there is a possible benefit to eliminating the CG in a 12-team playoff scenario, the two 12-0 team scenario is the one that throws a potential wrench in this.

From a playoff point of view, co-champions seems fine with two 12-0 or 11-1 scenarios but if you have two 10-2 or 9-3 (unlikely) teams with identical common opponent records, it may actually impact playoff spots.
Posted by Tony Rocky Horror
Member since May 2023
312 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 11:01 am to
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Vandy -Birmingham (neutral field)
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34978 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 11:11 am to
“Bridge schedule”

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