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Satisfied with mediocrity & no accountability - The Joe Alleva Story

Posted on 4/27/16 at 12:41 pm
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
Geismar
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 12:41 pm
How is either basketball coach still employed?

Is it acceptable now for the once-dominant LSU baseball program to have a rebuilding year? What happened to national powers reloading (see Bama football)?

Has any member of the media asked about these things?
This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 12:47 pm
Posted by LMfan
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 12:42 pm to
Make LSU Athletics Great Again
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64739 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 12:44 pm to
why do these threads seem to pop up every time we lose a midweek baseball game?
Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 12:46 pm to
Why do you keep popping up in these threads after a mid week baseball game?
This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 12:46 pm
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39981 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

Is it acceptable now for the once-dominate LSU baseball program to have a rebuilding year?

Yes.

And it's "dominant".
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 12:46 pm to
As for basketball... Your guess is a good as mine. The sooner Jones is gone, the better.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64739 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

Why do you keep popping up in these threads after a mid week baseball game?

i don't
Posted by DIGGY
Member since Nov 2012
1755 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 12:49 pm to
When Les Miles was given his last contract revision Alleva said "it is not about winning Championships but being in the hunt for them", or something to that effect. You can argue that at any point in any teams season they are "in the hunt" for a Championship until they are not. So according to the standards that he laid out for the coach in the most important sport financially at LSU, year in and year out all sports are meeting his goals and are not mediocre. It's all about what you expect and accept, just as in life.
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
Geismar
Member since Dec 2009
5175 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 12:50 pm to
Basketball?
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
13049 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

Is it acceptable now for the once-dominant LSU baseball program to have a rebuilding year?


I understand that we dominated a decade, and we are still today looked at as great program, and people are disappointed with postseason success, but this is one of the stupidest questions I've ever read.
Posted by BroPaterno
Member since Mar 2016
121 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:03 pm to
King is more concerned with making LSU look poor. No one is going to be fired.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

Is it acceptable now for the once-dominant LSU baseball program to have a rebuilding year?
Yes
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42661 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:22 pm to
Let's see,
Johnny Jones has had more success inheriting a terrible situation when Trent left and has done better than anyone since Dale Brown. Just because a lottery pick could not should the load and lead this team at the end of the schedule does not mean Jones hasn't been successful.

PM inherited the mess Smoke left, this program Skip had built was on life support. PM changed the culture and you can't argue with this teams success long term.

If not for Saban going to Bama, Miles has been fine.

Alleva does need to go though.
Posted by BroPaterno
Member since Mar 2016
121 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

Johnny Jones has had more success inheriting a terrible situation when Trent left and has done better than anyone since Dale Brown.

John Brady > Johnny Jones
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39981 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

Johnny Jones has had more success inheriting a terrible situation when Trent left and has done better than anyone since Dale Brown. Just because a lottery pick could not should the load and lead this team at the end of the schedule does not mean Jones hasn't been successful.

Yikes.
Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
4176 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

Let's see, Johnny Jones has had more success inheriting a terrible situation when Trent left and has done better than anyone since Dale Brown. Just because a lottery pick could not should the load and lead this team at the end of the schedule does not mean Jones hasn't been successful. PM inherited the mess Smoke left, this program Skip had built was on life support. PM changed the culture and you can't argue with this teams success long term. If not for Saban going to Bama, Miles has been fine. Alleva does need to go though.



Other than 2011, how would Miles have been just fine? Arkansas and Ole Miss seem to have his number as well. So let me fix it for you:

If not for November, Miles has been fine.

His poor coaching hires (prior to the last 2 years) and not foreseeing recruiting issues until it's too late has been his biggest problem of all. Lack of depth and QB development have killed us in November.
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18521 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 2:07 pm to
I wonder how well Joe played at the Zurich pro-am this morning?
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11296 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 2:14 pm to
The board gave us Alleva and Fking. Blame them.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 2:17 pm to
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GeismarGeauxer


Glad you could bring some new thoughts to the Rant. Usually we get the same thing over and over.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28416 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

Is it acceptable now for the once-dominant LSU baseball program to have a rebuilding year?

It's called the LSU 4th Quarter Collapse

75% into LSU Football's schedule the (7-0) Tigers lost to Bama and collapsed the rest of the season winning just 1 remaining regular season game. (25% winning percentage)

78% in the LSU Basketball schedule the (16-9) Tigers lost to Bama and collapsed the rest of the season winning just 2 remaining regular season games. (33% winning percentage)

Last night (27-13) LSU was going into 74.5% of the schedule played losing to Tulane. So its acceptable if the Baseball team falls apart with the remaining games on the year.
This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 2:25 pm
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