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re: Rhymes-Golden Spikes Award
Posted on 5/8/12 at 2:33 pm to TigerBait2008
Posted on 5/8/12 at 2:33 pm to TigerBait2008
quote:
Yep, Guess stats are wrong..
Except that Ramsey has better stats. They're practically equal in the previously mentioned OBP and Ramsey's slugging percentage is over 100 points higher. Plus Ramsey is the better defender. Rhymes is great but Ramsey is better.
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 2:34 pm to Tiger Authority
quote:no shite. SOMEONE ELSE made the RBI comment first
Not really dependent on Rhymes
Posted on 5/8/12 at 2:34 pm to TigerBait2008
quote:
Yep, Guess stats are wrong..
I guess you don't understand what overall means
Posted on 5/8/12 at 2:46 pm to Pilot Tiger
quote:
no shite. SOMEONE ELSE made the RBI comment first
Calm down dude. You backed up that comment so stand up to it.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 3:00 pm to Tiger Authority
Ramsey OPS 1.257
Rhymes OPS 1.200
Ramsey 26 extra base hits
Rhymes 15
Ramsey 57 runs
Rhymes 39
Rhymes OPS 1.200
Ramsey 26 extra base hits
Rhymes 15
Ramsey 57 runs
Rhymes 39
Posted on 5/8/12 at 3:07 pm to lsufball19
Why are you responding to me I don't care about this argument. Just commenting on the RBI comment. Continue your pursuit to prove another player is better than Rhymes.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 3:11 pm to Tiger Authority
quote:
Why are you responding to me I don't care about this argument. Just commenting on the RBI comment. Continue your pursuit to prove another player is better than Rhymes.
i didn't quote you. i was responding to the thread in general. i'm not trying to prove anything, either. just throwing out some additional stats
Posted on 5/8/12 at 3:17 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 5/8/12 at 3:24 pm to TigerBait2008
quote:
Ramsey is a better overall hitter
Rhymes- National Rankings
Avg- #1
OBP- #1
Hits- #2
RBI- #43
Ramsey- National Rankings
Avg- #22
OBP- #3
Hits- #154
RBI- out of top 150
But yea Ramsey is a better hitter. Hell, Ramsey is the second best hitter on his team behind Jayce Boyd.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 4:02 pm to YMCA
You're a dumbass using outdated stats, but instead of showing the actual stats you use ranking like that tells us the amount of difference among the players. They could be 50 spots apart on rank and the difference could be like 4 hits. Are you just ignoring the better stats like OPS which show that Ramsey has had the better year?
Posted on 5/8/12 at 4:04 pm to YMCA
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Hell, Ramsey is the second best hitter on his team behind Jayce Boyd.
Also, I have no idea what this has to do with the comparison of Ramsey and Rhymes. That would just mean Boyd must be better than Rhymes as well.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 5:11 pm to BRUNNIN4
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You're a dumbass using outdated stats, but instead of showing the actual stats you use ranking
These are actually the stats from the NCAA website as of May 6 so there is nothing out of date about them.
quote:
Are you just ignoring the better stats like OPS which show that Ramsey has had the better year?
So you're telling me that Ramsey being ahead in 1 stat is better than Rymes being ahead in 4 or 5? Excuse me 2 stats, slugging % and HR's. All OPS is is the combination of slg% and OB% and the total for Ramsey is .628 and Rhymes is at .581. So give me something else b/c right now you're full of shite. If you take all of those stats into account Rhymes is w/o a doubt better.
There's a .110 point diff in average,a diff of 24 hits between the 2 which is a lot and Rhymes has 43 RBI and Ramsey isn't on the page. So how those two make him better is beyond me
Posted on 5/8/12 at 5:31 pm to YMCA
Ramsey has scored 18 more runs than Rhymes, has a higher OPS, more home runs, more extra base hits, and a better fielding %.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 5:33 pm to YMCA
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These are actually the stats from the NCAA website as of May 6 so there is nothing out of date about them.
I meant that you're using old school stats like RBI and BA which are highly flawed. RBI are dependent on where you hit in the lineup and how good your teammates are at getting on base. The large gap in BA doesn't mean jack when Ramsey walks enough to close the gap in OBP to just .014.
quote:
All OPS is is the combination of slg% and OB% and the total for Ramsey is .628 and Rhymes is at .581.
Don't know where you got these numbers. Rhymes is 1.162 and Ramsey is 1.242. These are the types of numbers that show how good a hitter is. Also, Ramsey is a better defender and faster on the basepaths. I will concede SEC > ACC, but even if you want to say it's basically a wash as far as hitting is concerned, Ramsey is the better overall player.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 7:12 pm to BRUNNIN4
The same thing about RBI's can be said about runs scored. He gets RBI bc good hitters get on and Ramsey scores runs bc of good hitters behind him. It's obvious Rhymes is on base bc of the highest OBP so he would have a higher runs scored total if they would knock him in.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 7:29 pm to YMCA
I never said anything about runs. The rate stats show Ramsey is a little better at hitting. I'm sorry that's just how it is.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 1:05 am to BRUNNIN4
You and pilot have done a good job of trying to be above the fray of the rant. However, has pitching competition been mentioned yet? Curious as to the level of pitching Ramsey has faced not being in the SEC.
Posted on 5/9/12 at 1:07 am to Pilot Tiger
quote:
simply having a higher BA doesn't make one a better hitter either.
yes it does, in most cases. it's the most objective stat. but then again, you cited RBIs...
Posted on 5/9/12 at 8:38 am to acgeaux129
quote:not hardly
yes it does, in most cases. it's the most objective stat.
a hitter's job(99% of the time) is to not make an out
in that area, Ramsey and Rhymes are about even
I hate that this thread is making me seem like I'm hating on Rhymes, because I'm not. I'm just trying to be objective. Rhymes is just not the best overall player in the country, I'm sorry.
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