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re: Recruiting Myth: O is bringing in recruits like never before

Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by mdtiger1
Great Northwest Louisiana
Member since Jan 2005
1434 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:11 pm to
In the star rating system one player can make difference in rank. I'm not going to knock Miles but he sometimes failed to address need and the three years you mentioned are examples. LSU's OL and DL weren't what they once were. Why can't you be happy? And, it isn't over yet. COach O and company have their sights set on some great FB players of need. They may or may not land them all, let's wait to pass judgement.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:12 pm to
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but people acting like recruiting was ever LSU's issue are being naive


Nothing quite as enjoyable as watching someone make shite up and then melt over their made up shite.

Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20033 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:13 pm to
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Orgeron is currently at #6 in a year where Louisiana has 4 top 100 players and 12 top 250 players. I'd hope he'd finish in the top 5 with that leverage.


Well we were at #3 last week before the updates with the exact same players.

We will be top 5, likely top 3 after we sign 25, which we will.

I think you are using this small window of opportunity to diminish this years class
Posted by Louisianaboy87
Alabama
Member since Dec 2014
334 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:13 pm to
The issue was not that Miles couldn't recruit, but rather what he recruited. Prior to Oregeron taking over Les Miles had more scholarship kickers than Linebackers on the roster. That is bad roster management.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4339 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:14 pm to
The talent Miles brought in was heavy heavy skill positions. Many of whom did not contribute at the level they were rated. Miles left us with more kickers than linebackers. And 9 offensive lineman. Miles left us way behind Bama on the line of scrimmage and QBs. Was Brandon Harris really a 4 star. Was Malachi Dupre really a five star.
Posted by cheeser
downtown Fishville
Member since Feb 2007
2500 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:14 pm to
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people hated miles and didn't think his tenure was merited.

You at least have the first part right .
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4339 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:15 pm to
Orgeron has executed roster management far better than Miles
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:15 pm to
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Miles has been gone for over 2 years. I think it's time to move past it.
shite some are still stuck on Nick
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29233 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:15 pm to
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he’s no better than Miles


This is the issue. Pure and simple. We paid an extravagant buyout to make a lateral move. At best.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278729 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:16 pm to
the narrative last year was that he was a recruiting failure. He's not in unprecedented waters or anything this season, but let's face it, in usual Tigerdroppings fashion, many people jumped the gun.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29233 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:18 pm to
Lester, don’t think you should post anything with waters in it. Might get those other threads bumped
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:20 pm to
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people hated miles and didn't think his tenure was merited. And going by how we give put extensions, Orgeron could be here for that long and not win anything.


There will always be idiots on every side of every debate.

Miles was popular among most LSU fans. This board is am outlier and doesn't reflect the viewpoints of the LSU fanbase as a whole.

I just hope Ed O has at least as much success as Miles did. I do think he is capable, at least as of now.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57815 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:22 pm to
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the narrative last year was that he was a recruiting failure. He's not in unprecedented waters or anything this season, but let's face it, in usual Tigerdroppings fashion, many people jumped the gun.


I believe the phrase was “he can only recruit for someone else’s program”
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14475 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:23 pm to
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I would Love to see a breakdown of O’s recruiting in da trenches


Wait till Wednesday and we can.

Overall if we get the players we are trending toward and/or are targeting, best case we finish in a solid 3rd and have one of the highest recruit averages we've ever had.

Best case though so we have to see how it finishes.
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 6:25 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278729 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:25 pm to
that's actually pretty funny. Good one
Posted by Canwoodtiger
Member since Oct 2015
3737 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:28 pm to
Well TOS has locked out most of the notorious Gump imposters and Negatiger filth except for a handful who are very good at hiding identities and tough to call. Here it is a free for all. It is the business model and I understand clicks are everything so it is all good. So the unholy alliance from h*99) is Gump imposters paid by REC + Gump sub human primates doing this chitte for free + Our own sub human primates + natural contrarians looking for kicks + troll meisters + bots for good measure = sports board shenanigans for LSU recruiting. Very simple.
Posted by Canwoodtiger
Member since Oct 2015
3737 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:29 pm to
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Wait till Wednesday and we can. Overall if we get the players we are trending toward and/or are targeting, best case we finish in a solid 3rd and have one of the highest recruit averages we've ever had. Best case though so we have to see how it finishes.


This is true. Can end up a da(( fine class! But wait and see and let it all play out.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:38 pm to
I think he's done a great job of filling needs. This class has a potential to be special. We'd likely view his recruiting ability a lot differently had one of our best defensive players not been injured in the first game.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:43 pm to
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think he's done a great job of filling needs. This class has a potential to be special. We'd likely view his recruiting ability a lot differently had one of our best defensive players not been injured in the first game.




Meh, injuries are a wash. Every team deals with them.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 7:05 pm to
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I suspect a lot of the so-called "negatigers" on this board dislike the posters who are paid by the football program / athletic department --- not Orgeron.

Obviously there are a few, but I suspect even they dislike the nonstop PR and probably wouldn't say much of what they say if they weren't bombarded by propaganda all day every day.

IMO, the PR/propaganda is reaching a point where it's counterproductive.

I'd bet if it stopped, the anti-O segment of the fanbase would largely disappear



This is so much bullshite.
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