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Question About the Squib/Pooch Kick Offs

Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:32 am
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63192 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:32 am
Why not just kick the ball out of bounds to put the opponent on the 35 instead of giving them the potential to advance the ball? Some of the recoveries seem to be around the 40.

Is it because of the chance for the opponent to mishandle the ball?

To make it seem less like LSU is conceding because of poor ST play?

To send more of a message by Les to BDP?
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47793 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:34 am to
They sucked. Better chance to recover an onside kick than that bullshite.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39106 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:35 am to
A well executed pooch should put them at the 25 or 30. Like almost every other special team play our pooch kicks were awful!
Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
18309 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:36 am to
Was saying the same thing. I will say this, our KO approach and coverage is about as poor as I have ever seen it.

We can't find one MFer in the entire student population that can't kick the ball into the end zone?
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79115 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:46 am to
there were some people blaming players yesterday for the frickupa on special teams.

what they don't realize is that its a systemic issue, not down to the player level. the dude in charge of running a competent special teams unit is doing a horrific job.

the fact that we are conceding 15-20 yards of field position because his unit can't cover kicks is absolutely mind numbing. Miles is not the type to fire people, but BDP absolutely cannot be on staff next year.

btw, did anyone notice on 4th and short yesterday, I think in the second half. BDP was ready to send in the punters real quick and miles shut his arse down by keeping the offense on the field and wanting to draw them offsides. BDP looks at miles and says 'my bad' and we proceed to waste so much time that a timeout needed to be taken.

just goes to show you how clueless that dude is.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59599 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:48 am to
Hoping to recover is my guess
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63192 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:50 am to
I saw that. Weren't we actually penalized for delay of game, though?
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79115 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:51 am to
quote:

Weren't we actually penalized for delay of game, though?
yeah now that I think about it, you're prob right.

just one of that head scratchers.
Posted by Clutch PTM
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
577 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:55 am to
I don't think that was a big deal. Delay of game might have been on purpose to give the punter more room.
Posted by K2LAW
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jun 2007
1686 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:56 am to
quote:

I saw that. Weren't we actually penalized for delay of game, though?


I felt as though LM did it on purpose -- if we were able to draw them offsides, first down. If not, our punt would only be 5 more yards. NBD
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79115 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 8:59 am to
quote:

if we were able to draw them offsides, first down. If not, our punt would only be 5 more yards. NBD
yeah, no big deal. just the execution of it was weird, it was like they didn't give them much of a chance to draw them offsides bc of the sideline confusion.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63192 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:34 am to
quote:

A well executed pooch should put them at the 25 or 30. Like almost every other special team play our pooch kicks were awful!


How does that help us with poor KO coverage, though? Seems like we might as well just kick out of bounds with no potential for a return--especially if we apparently can't execute a squib, either.
Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
66001 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:38 am to
I also question the punts at USC's 35 yard line and thereabouts. It's painfully obvious at this point that Keehn has no ability to make good punt placements, which means that we sacrificed scoring opportunities for meager 13 and 15 yard changes in field position.

The pooches showed that we're willing to give them the ball on kickoffs at the 35 yard line, anyway, so why not just go for the first downs when we have the ball down there?

Posted by mtnhighTiger
Scottsdale, AZ
Member since Jan 2010
3935 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:39 am to
What happened to Gamble? I thought he had this monster leg and could kick it through the end zone each time?
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79115 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:43 am to
quote:

I also question the punts at USC's 35 yard line and thereabouts. It's painfully obvious at this point that Keehn has no ability to make good punt placements, which means that we sacrificed scoring opportunities for meager 13 and 15 yard changes in field position.
I actually agree here. if we're punting at their >35-40 and consistently punting into the endzone, with a net of 10-15 yards when all is settled, you might as well go for it. keehn's had a hard time just 'chipping' his punts to inside the 15 onward.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14158 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:45 am to
quote:

What happened to Gamble?


That was the question of the day. I seem to remember him kicking it out of the end zone a few times last season. Seriously, it's gotten so bad that maybe we should open up a contest to the entire student body. LOL
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26125 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 9:50 am to
What's up with Bradley Dale Peveto? He failed as a DC, and as head coach at Northwestern. His tenure as special teams coordinator looks shaky.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25295 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 10:00 am to
quote:

We can't find one MFer in the entire student population that can't kick the ball into the end zone?
I have four years of eligibility left!!
Class of 83
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29263 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 10:01 am to
it's seems like the "strategy" is to kick it short to have a chance to pin the opposing team close to their own endzone or something? problem with that is by the time the KR catches it, he's already on the 10 yard line and the coverage unit isn't getting to him until the 30 yard line if at all.

just makes more sense to kick it out of the back of the endzone at this point and stop experimenting with this idea that the coverage team is going to pin any teams deep. they can't execute. have the team start at the 25 every time.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63192 posts
Posted on 10/11/15 at 10:04 am to
I've seen only one poster defend that particular punt on here.
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