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re: qualify your credentials on deciding if CLM is raise-worthy
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:08 pm to navy
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:08 pm to navy
quote:What does that have to do with it?
When was the last time you saw a highlight reference back to either of the games you mentioned?
So let me get this straight. Going 12-0, losing to the eventual National Champions in the SECCG and then laying a major egg in the SEC's bowl game is better than going 13-0 while beating 8 ranked teams and then losing in the NC game to a team you already defeated? Is that what you are saying?
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Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:08 pm to CharlesLSU
10-2 is a great result but not worthy of a raise.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:08 pm to CharlesLSU
Miles was the 5th highest-paid coach in the country. His performance at LSU has been top-five.
Looking at the data (which you can do here #shamelessselfadvertising), Miles is a lot closer to the 10th highest paid coach than the 4th. A LOT closer. And I could easily see a couple of other names in there (Chip Kelly anyone?) who can expect a significant pay raise before too long.
If Miles is top-5, and you want to keep a top-5 coach, then you need to pay him enough to keep him top-5 in pay. He was getting close to falling behind Kirk Ferentz, for Christ's sake. A raise is perfectly understandable.
Looking at the data (which you can do here #shamelessselfadvertising), Miles is a lot closer to the 10th highest paid coach than the 4th. A LOT closer. And I could easily see a couple of other names in there (Chip Kelly anyone?) who can expect a significant pay raise before too long.
If Miles is top-5, and you want to keep a top-5 coach, then you need to pay him enough to keep him top-5 in pay. He was getting close to falling behind Kirk Ferentz, for Christ's sake. A raise is perfectly understandable.
This post was edited on 11/28/12 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:10 pm to drexyl
10-2 is a failure as compared to three other schools in the Southeastern Conference. That's the standard. Nothing else. If you're satisfied with finishing in fourth place in the S.E.C., then you have really low standards of success.
10-2 is an acceptable record to all those excuse makers with low standards of excellence for the Louisiana State University football program. We all know who they are. They're on display here on a daily basis spewing their logic and reasoning for LSU athletic failures.
BTW, I used to wear a purple and gold uniform in athletic competition for the Ole War Skule.
10-2 is an acceptable record to all those excuse makers with low standards of excellence for the Louisiana State University football program. We all know who they are. They're on display here on a daily basis spewing their logic and reasoning for LSU athletic failures.
BTW, I used to wear a purple and gold uniform in athletic competition for the Ole War Skule.
This post was edited on 11/28/12 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:10 pm to bradybones24
quote:
Only fools put results ahead of the process of how you get there.quote]
This might be one of the dumber things I have ever read on this site. I don't even know how to respond to this. Winning is what matters. So you are telling me that if he ran a more entertaining offense and had perfect clock management skills but went 5-7 and 6-6 that would be better than having a vanilla offense and going 10-2 and 13-1 like last year. If you believe this then you are the dumbest person posting on The Rant and you should receive an award for that.
[quote]This guy has had a rabbits foot jammed up his arse starting back when early doucet bobbled and caught the 4th down pass from jamarcus Russell back at Arizona State in 05.
8 years of luck huh? You are either just trolling or the dumbest poster on this site. So I guess Saban winning this year against us was a perfectly executed strategy? Give me a break, everyone admitted they were lucky to beat LSU that night. You act like no one ever makes a diving catch, or bobbles a ball, or wins on a hail mary at the end of a game (Bluegrass Miracle was Saban btw, I guess that was strategy too, no luck).
ETA: should have been in the quote.
This might be one of the dumber things I have ever read on this site. I don't even know how to respond to this. Winning is what matters. So you are telling me that if he ran a more entertaining offense and had perfect clock management skills but went 5-7 and 6-6 that would be better than having a vanilla offense and going 10-2 and 13-1 like last year. If you believe this then you are the dumbest person posting on The Rant and you should receive an award for that.
This post was edited on 11/28/12 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:11 pm to TDsngumbo
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I'm an employee whose job it is to meet my goals each quarter. I have consequenses to pay when I fall short of those goals. That makes me qualified to have the opinion that CLM is not raise-worthy. LSU is a premiere football program - our goal is to win the championship; not to be close. It's Ole Miss's goal to be close but not ours
Who is to say miles didnt reach the goals according to his contract? Not talking about what fans want. The guy has incentives in place for making bowl games. Maybe according to alleva and taf, miles did reach those goals. Or maybe they also know they arent in position to replace him with someone better. I dont know the ins and outs of the mans contract and neither do you. So no, your job doesnt qualify you fir any opinion related to his contract and what he deserves.
This post was edited on 11/28/12 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:15 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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8 years of luck huh? You are either just trolling or the dumbest poster on this site. So I guess Saban winning this year against us was a perfectly executed strategy? Give me a break, everyone admitted they were lucky to beat LSU that night. You act like no one ever makes a diving catch, or bobbles a ball, or wins on a hail mary at the end of a game (Bluegrass Miracle was Saban btw, I guess that was strategy too, no luck).
Yes...I am the dumbest poster on the rant...so retarded that I'm able to see past the purple and gold shades that much of this site has and see reality for what it is. Did I say that I wish we had a more dynamic offense...no. I was simply saying that its undeniable the amount of fortune that this man has had.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:16 pm to LSUnKaty
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LSUnKaty
Tell me why in the frick should they ever enter into contracts if they don't plan on honoring the one they signed.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:18 pm to bradybones24
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Yes...I am the dumbest poster on the rant
Yes, you actually are if you believe Miles' successful run at LSU can solely be credited to having good luck.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:20 pm to Topwater Trout
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Tell me why in the frick should they ever enter into contracts if they don't plan on honoring the one they signed.
I dont get whats so hard to understand about this. Everyone in sports renegotiates contracts all the time. Athletes demand trades and no one has a frickin fit about that.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:23 pm to bradybones24
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This guy has had a rabbits foot jammed up his arse starting back when early doucet bobbled and caught the 4th down pass from jamarcus Russell back at Arizona State in 05.
It aint luck. Chance favors the prepared mind.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:24 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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Yes, you actually are if you believe Miles' successful run at LSU can solely be credited to having good luck.
Jesus christ did I ever say solely?
the other reasons are
1) fertile recruiting ground with no other in state school to share with.
2) John Chavis
3) John Chavis
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:24 pm to bradybones24
I will argue ur chavis point.
Rant was in meltdown when we hired the guy. Defensive penalties all season show lack of discipline, and no you cant blame milrs if only chavis gets credit. Multiple collapses at end of half and games this year. Our pass d the last 3 games would make jj look like manning.
Also chavis just finished his 4th season. So 4 other seasons we had a diff dc and won a bcs title. You have zero argument. Heres why, miles would go out and hire someone. Just like any other coach in the country would.so if chavis left, youd think we would just leave the dc position vacant? How dumb are you.
People were pissed at chavis when he got offered the UGA job, then got a raise from lsu. Terds like you said he didnt deserve it he was just trying to bait more money from lsu and fans were saying let him walk. Same fricking story diff season.
Our fans are a bunch of little bitches.
Rant was in meltdown when we hired the guy. Defensive penalties all season show lack of discipline, and no you cant blame milrs if only chavis gets credit. Multiple collapses at end of half and games this year. Our pass d the last 3 games would make jj look like manning.
Also chavis just finished his 4th season. So 4 other seasons we had a diff dc and won a bcs title. You have zero argument. Heres why, miles would go out and hire someone. Just like any other coach in the country would.so if chavis left, youd think we would just leave the dc position vacant? How dumb are you.
People were pissed at chavis when he got offered the UGA job, then got a raise from lsu. Terds like you said he didnt deserve it he was just trying to bait more money from lsu and fans were saying let him walk. Same fricking story diff season.
Our fans are a bunch of little bitches.
This post was edited on 11/28/12 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:24 pm to bradybones24
quote:LOL. Quite a contradiction to the reality of the coaching profession.
Only fools put results ahead of the process of how you get there.
No coach was ever fired for going 0-12 as long as he looked good getting there?
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:28 pm to bradybones24
quote:
It aint luck. Chance favors the prepared mind.
That's true...we must have prepared for the football to bounce straight up at florida...oh, and for the all american auburn kicker to miss 5 fg's in 05...oh, and for the ingenious plan of Tennessee having 13 men on the field in '10....let's not forget the preperation the was necessary for D. Byrd hauling in a touchdown with one second on the clock....these are only a few examples of the type of preparation that get you a million dollar a year raise.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:29 pm to bradybones24
We won a national championship with Gary Crowton.....and Bo Pelini and you have seen Chavis' defense the last three games right???
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:30 pm to Mayhawman
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LOL. Quite a contradiction to the reality of the coaching profession.
No coach was ever fired for going 0-12 as long as he looked good getting there?
you guys are fricking morons...looking good is not what wins games...but the process of execution and understanding roles regardless of the opponent or score...frick.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:32 pm to bradybones24
Saban lost 3 or more games a year here except for 1. Including losses to UAB, inferior Ole Miss teams, close game with Troy at home, squeaker against Oregon State whose kicker missed a few kicks as I recall.....hmmmm sounds like the pathetic argument you're trying to make against Miles.....
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:32 pm to dgnx6
quote:
I will argue ur chavis point.
Rant was in meltdown when we hired the guy. Defensive penalties all season show lack of discipline, and no you cant blame milrs if only chavis gets credit. Multiple collapses at end of half and games this year. Our pass d the last 3 games would make jj look like manning.
Also chavis just finished his 4th season. So 4 other seasons we had a diff dc and won a bcs title. You have zero argument. Heres why, miles would go out and hire someone. Just like any other coach in the country would.so if chavis left, youd think we would just leave the dc position vacant? How dumb are you.
People were pissed at chavis when he got offered the UGA job, then got a raise from lsu. Terds like you said he didnt deserve it he was just trying to bait more money from lsu and fans were saying let him walk. Same fricking story diff season.
Our fans are a bunch of little bitches.
funny how most former players that we hear about who have the balls to say something usually don't agree with the CLM praise.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 4:33 pm to Styxion
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I'll take whoever is giving up a lower bowl sideline
Second that.
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