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re: Proof that the "horrible call" at 1st base was correct...
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:04 am to magiLSU
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:04 am to magiLSU
Good job putting that photo montage together!
You should email that photo sequence to Luke Johnson at the Advocate. He covers LSU baseball for the paper and this morning he was harping on how LSU "benefited from a non-reviewable" bad call.
His public email address is: ljohnson@theadvocate.com
You should email that photo sequence to Luke Johnson at the Advocate. He covers LSU baseball for the paper and this morning he was harping on how LSU "benefited from a non-reviewable" bad call.
His public email address is: ljohnson@theadvocate.com
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:04 am to Topwater Trout
My feeling on a play like that is if you are going to make that call in that situation he must have seen something that the rest of us couldn't have. He is in the best position than anyone or any camera is. Umps should wear body cams.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 8:11 am
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:05 am to the LSUSaint
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Except for the fact in the "last" one, chronologically it's the first one....And you can't see if he has the ball yet. No one doubts he touched the bag at some point, we are doubtful he stayed in contact when the throw pulled him off. Changed those pics around and you have proof positive he wasn't on the bag. Question being, when did he have the ball in possession
You're over thinking this. The shadow gap isn't covered up until after the runner has touched the bag. It doesn't matter when the ball makes it into his glove since the argument and call was that the 1st basemen pulled off the bag. The only exception would be of course if he caught it and then pulled off, but I don't think this was ever in debate.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:07 am to magiLSU
Didn't get to watch the game. Why was this play non-reviewable?
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:08 am to sicboy
There are specific plays that are reviewable: fair or foul, plays at the plate, did a fielder catch or trap a fly ball, etc.
Plays at first base are not on the list of reviewable plays.
Plays at first base are not on the list of reviewable plays.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:11 am to LSURussian
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Plays at first base are not on the list of reviewable plays.
I so don't understand how that one is left off. Strikes and balls, sure, but a play at first is easy enough to confirm or deny.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:13 am to LSURussian
quote:Not all of them.
fair or foul
Just ask Cole Freeman.Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:15 am to sicboy
quote:Probably because the umps would be reviewing every other play at first base. Games would be 4 hours regularly....
I so don't understand how that one is left off. Strikes and balls, sure, but a play at first is easy enough to confirm or deny.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:16 am to ell_13
Just playing devil's advocate here, but is it possible that the angle of the sun created some sort of optical illusion? I thought on first review that he was probably off the base, so I'm not arguing that the runner was out.
Eta: thought he was probably off the base. Still don't think anything is 100% conclusive.
Eta: thought he was probably off the base. Still don't think anything is 100% conclusive.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 8:18 am
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:18 am to TigerLunatik
quote:No. This wasn't like a double-slit experiment.
is it possible that the angle of the sun created some sort of optical illusion?
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:19 am to TigerLunatik
^^ Why must you bring up Saban in every thread?
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:19 am to magiLSU
I could see the foot off the bag clearly. I thought the announcer was ridiculous in continuously harping that it was a bad call.
Look at the angle of his foot. When he catches the ball, it is leaning away from the bag. About a half second after he catches it and the runner's foot hits, he leans back and the foot is actually touching the bag. But for a split second his foot is off and that is the very time the runner's foot hit the bag.
It was a great call. The announcers were HORRIBLE in not recognizing that.
Look at the angle of his foot. When he catches the ball, it is leaning away from the bag. About a half second after he catches it and the runner's foot hits, he leans back and the foot is actually touching the bag. But for a split second his foot is off and that is the very time the runner's foot hit the bag.
It was a great call. The announcers were HORRIBLE in not recognizing that.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:20 am to The Pretender
quote:thank God the ump isn't a fan.
It was a bad call,but who knows whether it would have been over-turned.
This just proves fans see what they want to see.
It's a call that 90 percent of umps get right in local little league.
He had position and saw his foot off
He had no reason to make it up
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:22 am to magiLSU
Good work!
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:25 am to pensacola
quote:
Why must you bring up Saban in every thread?
No clue what you're talking about. One, I've rarely posted on the rant this month. Two, my post had absolutely nothing to do with Saban.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:33 am to magiLSU
I don't believe these pics are definitive, but during the telecast and now using your pics, it's apparent that the guys foot may have been off the bag. The ump had a great angle, he immediately signaled off the bag, and really there is no evidence he blew the call.
If It were a MLB game the call would not have been overturned.
If It were a MLB game the call would not have been overturned.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:56 am to The Pretender
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It was a bad call
Just curious, where is your proof that it was a bad call? Do you have access to a different camera angle or something that no one else has seen?
At the very least all that can be said with certainty is that the first base ump had a very clear, very close up view of what went down and he immediately called him off the bag with absolutely no hesitation.
So unless the first base UMP had some money on the game or some other unknown reason to screw USCe theres no reason to think the dude was wrong!
Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:08 am to sicboy
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I so don't understand how that one is left off.
Seems to me that they dont review plays at 1st base because they obviously dont have enough cameras currently to get a good look at it (based on the fact that no one did/has produced an angle showing the opposite side of the base). Now im sure that they could add another camera and camera man (or woman) for that but who knows how much $$$ that would cost when you factor in at least one additional camera and camera person at every baseball game/stadium in the SEC.
Also am I correct in saying that this is not a NCAA BB rule for all D1 games but an SEC BB rule controlled exclusively by the SEC office?
Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:29 am to magiLSU
Nice work, but I could see him stretching his toe back towards the bag in slow motion...only reason to move it towards the bag is simple, his foot wasn't touching the bag to start with...
Posted on 5/8/17 at 9:29 am to geauxtigers33
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He is in the best position than anyone or any camera is.
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