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Posted on 12/23/16 at 8:38 am to lammo
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We are 8-3. Not bad on the surface.
nobody in basketball just looks "at the surface." Everyone understands strength of schedule, so 8-3 means zip if we don't have good wins and have bad losses.
Two of our losses were by 35 and 34 points. I mean, damn, last year Wake was 11-20 (2-16 in the ACC).
Those are horrific losses, and to have two of them in our first 11 games tells you all you need to know.
Posted on 12/23/16 at 8:45 am to CP3forMVP
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just because there are other SEC teams that are garbage, just like us.
True, but I dont think it will be too far over.
vs Vandy- Toss up
@ Mizzou- W (optimistic)
vs MSU- W
@ A&M- LOL
vs bama- W
@ Auburn- L
@ Arky- L
vs UF- L
@ TTU- L
vs USC- L
vs A&M- L
@ UK- LOL
vs Arky- L
@ OM- probable L
@ Bama- Toss up
vs AU- toss up
@ UGA- L
vs Tenn- toss up
@ MSU - L
FWIW our road SEC schedule is brutal. Our opponents are currently 74-28. Then look at our home schedule and tell me who you think is an auto win. Vandy and bama maybe?
Posted on 12/23/16 at 8:47 am to atltiger6487
You know what is also scary...look at this list of SEC coaches..my how it's just crept up on us:
John Calipari, Kentucky
Bruce Pearl, Auburn
Ben Howland, Mississippi State
Rick Barnes, Tennessee
Mark Fox, Georgia
Andy Kennedy, Ole Miss
Mike Anderson, Arkansas
Avery Johnson, Alabama
Mike White, Florida (from Nola FYI)
Frank Martin, South Carolina (loved him at Kansas State)
Billy Kennedy,Texas A&M
Kim Anderson, Missouri (only one Jones can compete with bc its early right now)
Bryce Drew, Vanderbilt
Annnddd LSU.
John Calipari, Kentucky
Bruce Pearl, Auburn
Ben Howland, Mississippi State
Rick Barnes, Tennessee
Mark Fox, Georgia
Andy Kennedy, Ole Miss
Mike Anderson, Arkansas
Avery Johnson, Alabama
Mike White, Florida (from Nola FYI)
Frank Martin, South Carolina (loved him at Kansas State)
Billy Kennedy,Texas A&M
Kim Anderson, Missouri (only one Jones can compete with bc its early right now)
Bryce Drew, Vanderbilt
Annnddd LSU.
This post was edited on 12/23/16 at 8:55 am
Posted on 12/23/16 at 8:59 am to SHMILL
The SEC is a terrible conference this year and this team is still better than last year's. We will be terrible on the road, good at home and finish 11-7 in the conference.
Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:02 am to lsuson
Under.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 9:38 pm to 1badboy
Anybody want to revisit their previous bets?!
Gonna be a rough ride, fellas.
Gonna be a rough ride, fellas.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:07 am to Sneakerhead42
UNDER!!! 
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:14 am to SHMILL
I'll say over. But not by much. Still a lot of bad teams in the SEC and I think what you'll see are a few games where the kids decide to bust it.
But those games will be too few and far between if what we've seen the last 4+ years plays out if history tells us anything, and we have been shown no reason why it won't.
But those games will be too few and far between if what we've seen the last 4+ years plays out if history tells us anything, and we have been shown no reason why it won't.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:31 am to Tiger Ugly
3 weeks ago I would have said there was no way they wouldn't win at least 6-7 SEC games. Now, 3-4 is probably more realistic. The team has quit on Jones (they actually quit last year, but the powers that be either were too dumb to see it, or just didn't care).
Clearly the coaching staff recognizes the problems on defense. But whatever Jones is telling them has no effect. I think the players are done with him. It's 5 games of 1-on-1 out there, and Jones has no idea how and/or authority to get them to play as a team.
Yet again, Joe Alleva and the school pres are a day late and a dollar short in doing anything. Sadly, there is no accountability above Jones. The President doesn't give a shite, therefore Alleva's abysmal job is immaterial.
Clearly the coaching staff recognizes the problems on defense. But whatever Jones is telling them has no effect. I think the players are done with him. It's 5 games of 1-on-1 out there, and Jones has no idea how and/or authority to get them to play as a team.
Yet again, Joe Alleva and the school pres are a day late and a dollar short in doing anything. Sadly, there is no accountability above Jones. The President doesn't give a shite, therefore Alleva's abysmal job is immaterial.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:59 am to Alt26
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The team has quit on Jones (they actually quit last year, but the powers that be either were too dumb to see it, or just didn't care).
This is honestly the harsh reality Alt and it can't be gotten around are dismissed anymore. There are too many athletes with length on this team to surmise anything else when you see consistent defensive performances like this.
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But whatever Jones is telling them has no effect
I think this has been going on for a while, it's just gotten worse IMHO, especially after what happened last year. Basketball coaching ain't that complicated. Most coaches teach many of the same principals the same way. I just think some are better at compelling their players to do these things with consistency better than others. CJJ really seems to struggle more than most here from what I can see. And many of the players on this year's team were on last years team. How much do you think they respect Johnny after being witness to that?
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