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Our lack of a running game

Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:18 am
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
5229 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:18 am
We are 6 games into the season with only 620 yards rushing from running backs. We don’t have any running back averaging more than 6 carries or 33 yards per game.

Williams has the most carries (35), but the lowest ypc (3.5) and the least breakaway potential (his 15 yard longest play pales in comparison to Cain’s 49, Goodwin’s 47, Emery’s 39-yard pass).

I know our line sucks…but this is the third year in a row with deplorable rushing. All of our best years included 2,500+ yards rushing, even the seemingly pass-happy 2019 squad.

I know we are all up in arms that Jaydon is terrified to throw downfield and thus one-dimensional, but I’m just as concerned that within that one dimension (rushing) we can’t seem to do that either.

We are a zero-dimensional team.
Posted by Tiger in Gatorland
Moonshine Holler
Member since Sep 2006
9082 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:24 am to
Agree....we need some stud horses to tote the ball. Without that threat, opposing defenses can play pretty conservative. All the current RBs have been disappointing. I understand Fournette is once in a generation, but we have no Hill, Broussette, Scott or anyone of that like.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64689 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:30 am to
Team focuses on shuttin down the run which includes the running qb knowing he wont send it over the top with success.
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Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
3743 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:36 am to
I was sitting back waiting for someone to throw this out there.

This is problem NUMBER 1! Not only lack of running game by yards, but the play calling. Its' the same damn thing.

You can't expect a secondary or LB to cheat up or focus for a few seconds on a running game for PA if you dont have it. Take away JD scrambles and its pathetic.

JD has a lot of issues, but he needs a running game to support him.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278530 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:36 am to
They could have a better running game if they designed runs with Daniels, rather than let him run ad-libbed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422893 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:37 am to
Or used movement/options. Ole Miss is putting on a clinic doing this, this year.

We have like 3 running plays

zone
zone-read
WR reverse (Which is rare and more of a Boutte play specifically)
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
5229 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:43 am to
I can see the argument that other teams are aware of JD’s shortcomings and thus load up to shut down the run, but only to a point.

How many years were we still able to grind out yardage despite 8-man boxes under previous coaches. Sure, it didn’t work against Bama, but against virtually everyone else we still churned out something.

On RB carries we went 13 for 39 vs FSU. That was BEFORE Daniel’s shortcomings were fully known and teams adjusted.
Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
21284 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:44 am to
It’s definitely a concern, but saying this is the third year in a row, explains a lot. This team has a ton of holes to fill. It’s not going to be a quick fix. People jumping to conclusions half way through year 1, are not facing reality. If we are talking about this, year 3, then I agree, it’s huge red flag.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:48 am to
The rest of our opponents will mirror what Tenn did on defense. And it is not so hard when your QB can't hit open receivers...
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
5229 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:51 am to
Agreed. And I’m not putting all of this on Kelly or making any inferences to what it means long-term. I’m just noting that everyone focused on the passing game exclusively is missing the giant red flag on something that has been our bread and butter through our 2002-2019 period.
Posted by Art Vandelay
LOUISIANA
Member since Sep 2005
10703 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:53 am to
quote:

We have like 3 running plays zone zone-read WR reverse (Which is rare and more of a Boutte play specifically)


JD can run. Why doesn’t he keep on a couple of those reads. Just to keep the defense honest if anything.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37559 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:56 am to
quote:

we need some stud horses to tote the ball


We do, the coaches just don’t trust them
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72977 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:56 am to
quote:

How many years were we still able to grind out yardage despite 8-man boxes under previous coaches. Sure, it didn’t work against Bama, but against virtually everyone else we still churned out something.


Great OL recruiting and we have always had at least one stud running back. We have neither of those this year.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
21785 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:57 am to
quote:

We are a zero-dimensional team.



This is an excellent way of putting it.

The running game has been neglected for five years, 2019 was an outlier due to the greatest passing game in CFB history that made it easy to move the ball any way we wanted, including the ground game.


When we snap the ball this season there is never anything that appears to come naturally or easy.

It really is incumbent on the coaching staff to scheme plays that compensate for our weakness on the line and limitations at QB.

Having Daniels stand still waiting for someone to break open while the pocket collapses around him is lunacy and yet it seems to be the plan nearly every play.

Why we don’t work in rollouts or misdirection is really confusing to me.


This Florida game is extremely important in trying to get bowl eligible, it’s likely our most winnable SEC game left with Arkansas, so we need to see EVERYTHING this coaching staff can muster this week.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61308 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:57 am to
You can't run if you can't stretch the field. Daniels cannot stretch the field so teams stack the box.
Posted by ELchapoLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2017
1458 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 9:59 am to
quote:

Agree....we need some stud horses to tote the ball
we got them. Problem is, the whole run blocking scheme & run creativity suck. Denbrock overall scheme suck
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
5229 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:03 am to
quote:

You can't run if you can't stretch the field. Daniels cannot stretch the field so teams stack the box.


I disagree. Teams do it all the time with creative schemes and worse players. I’m not saying we should be Navy or 2010 Georgia Tech, but there are teams that find ways to run without having Burrow, Chase, Jefferson, and Marshall pulling everyone out of the box…
Posted by bayouboo
Member since Jan 2007
2223 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:03 am to
quote:

You can't run if you can't stretch the field. Daniels cannot stretch the field so teams stack the box.


This.

Opposing Ds just have to defend between the tackles with the run game. This leaves the safeties free to help defend the pass. Which is partially why Daniels won’t let it fly. If the opposing D can control the run game with the D line and a Linebacker we are done.
Posted by Lcguy
Member since Jan 2020
924 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:06 am to
Our line is not very good and our backs are very average! Recruiting will be the fix.
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3944 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:18 am to
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They could have a better running game if they designed runs with Daniels, rather than let him run ad-libbed.


You need a better running game without Daniels. That makes the ground game that much more explosive. But to have that, you need a more diverse run scheme and the offensive linemen to block it. The shadow staff is not doing a very good job of picking up the opposing defenses tendencies, IMO. I say the same goes for the other side of the ball.
This post was edited on 10/9/22 at 10:22 am
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