re: Orgeron's trajectory since Ole Miss is super positive

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You can't argue that there were much much better options out there. I'm an O supporter, but let's not kid ourselves here.

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First, you are obviously not a Coach O supporter. Nonetheless, you said there were "much better" options out there. Name someone much better?

Larry Fedora? Not only was he not any better, but he is not going anywhere either, as he had just gotten a new raise and contract extension good to 2022, while Tennesse had previously tried to bribe him away from NC before they ended up hiring Butch Jones with far more money than he was making and couldn't do it because Fedora loves his job and his family loves NC.

Mike Gundy, this past June 2016 had also just received a contract extension and a raise to $4.15 million dollars a year and he also wasn't going anywhere either because as he says all the time Oklahoma State is his dream job.

And that leaves Dan Mullins from MSU who is already making about the same amount as Les Miles was when Miles got fired. So he would have had to be given a raise and would have been quite a bit more expensive than Coach O, and his overall record is decent but not that great. I think Alleva saw him as a solid but not great coach.

Moreover, Coach O grew up in Lousiana, knows Louisiana like the back of his hand, already knows all of the high school coaches, and outside the Rant was loved by the LSU fan base, the LSU players, the former LSU players, by the recruits, and by the assistant coaches, while Dan Mullen, on the other hand, was an outsider.

Not to mention, that had Mullen got the job as opposed to Coach O we probably would have lost that outstanding recruiting class we ended up with and had to pay for it down the line, and Coach Mullin would have also brought in his own coaching staff. So we could have kissed Coach Dave Aranda good bye. As he probably would have ended up with Coach Herman at Texas.

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Les's coaching record at LSU is a testament to the greatness of the LSU football program and not a testament to Les Miles.

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Whoa there. He won a national championship, got to another, (feel about that as you may) but are you seriously suggesting he did it out of "luck?" Or something close to that?

The football program runs itself? Come on.


He had his faults but give credit when it's due, if you are being honest.


I am not trying to be disrespectful, please don't think I am.


It was time for Miles to go and here we are now. Let's just get ready for football instead of all this pointing fingers stuff.


We don't even have the normal jersey countdown posts.

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Whoa there. He won a national championship, got to another, (feel about that as you may) but are you seriously suggesting he did it out of "luck?" Or something close to that?

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Yeah, with Nick Saban's players and still had to get extremely lucky to back his way into that national championship game. Not to mention that he should have at least won one in 2006, the year before 2007 as well. Moreover, he blew another opportunity in 2011. Hence, that's why I say, had we had a decent head coach other than Les Miles, we probably would have won at least two more national championships if not more.

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He had his faults but give credit when it's due, if you are being honest.

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I'm not the only one that feels that way, outside of the Les Miles fan club, Les is like the plague and no one wants to touch him with a ten-foot pole and even with that fabulous won/loss record at LSU. That's because everyone knows that fabulous won/loss record at LSU is a testament to the strength of the LSU football program and not a testament to Les Miles. Meanwhile, I can't say that I blame them either.

If I want to give credit where credit is due, the credit goes to the assistant coaches who held their noses coaching for Les Miles.

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The same Chip Kelly that doesn't know what a defense is? The one that is struggling to keep the 49ers afloat? The same Chip Kelly that got his Oregon team whipped by Les' LSU team?

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His coaching record is irrelevant, everybody is obsessed with that guy for some reason and he is named as a perfect candidate for every job that pops open in the country, while at the same time Les Miles is treated like he has the plague.

Nonetheless, I never perceived Chip Kelly as being a superior coach.

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He was unemployed when we hired him to be a position coach

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Dumb point.
USC fans wanted him there. If he doesn't have the Loozeeana accent he posses he'd have been their Coach. USC has to have someone that's a darling to their brand.

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if you consider USC top tier which is debatable).

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Holy shite,.. if USC isn't top tier then LSU definitely isn't

Lee, you need to simmer down. You're still white trash that is supported by your wife

LSU hasn't exactly lit the world on fire for the last decade minus 2011

Ladies, we got us another O hater. Welcome aboard. As far as rankings, that is laughable. Let the season play out and ask the question. And frick you pussy.

You're right Goldrush, so go fricke yourself!