re: Oregon laws concerning Cliff Harris incident

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That should be "read" and "too".

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No!

You don't say!



The only reason I went to the grammar card is beacuse you're reading comprehension was also lacking.

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And with me posting the PAC wins. Well, I was just proving one can easily post some wins, no big deal. Someone can even go back to 1929 and try to built a point. But then one can stick with the present and make a point too. I was just proving "team SEC" is not as invincible as people in the South like to believe

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If that was the point you were trying to make, why did you say...?

"Each time we beat a SEC team they always have the same excuses and they get real old."

Because that is the statement I was clearly responding to. And you were way off.

If you want to take credit for other Pac teams' wins vs the SEC, fine, I'll just hang my hat on LSU's 5-0 record vs Pac teams since 2003.

And I'll say this, if you want to talk about fan bases coming up with retarded excuses, talk to fans of OSU, ASU and UW. The only ones who didn't offer up excuses were UA fans - whose teams were outscored by a combined 104-16.

As far as going back to 1929, or sticking with the present to make a point, I'll bite.

Since 1929, LSU has a .812 win% vs Pac teams (13-3), but just staying in the present that increases to a 1.00 win% (5-0).

See my point?

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The SEC was favored to win 12 of those games but only won 10.

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Favored in 12 but ONLY won ten of them...oh the futility...

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If you knew anything about Oregon, which obviously you do not, he was stopped a few miles from the home of the Oregon State Beavers. And many cops go to OSU for their education.

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Are there no Oregon grads on the police force? No Oregon grads became a cop and live in the vicinity of OSU? First, how do you know this? Link to your evidence or blow me. Second, I think I know why OSU fans hate little frickheads like you. Is becoming a police officer below an Oregon grad? It sounds like that's what you are implying.

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So they get worse treatment, not preferred treatment. And if the cop had known,(which he did not) odds are he would of been a beaver fan and went extra hard on him just for that.

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You do know that (your statement) would be tantamount to a violation of Harris' due process? And we are the corrupt ones?

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This is not the deep South with all its corruptions and protections and good old boy club. Over here they would love nothing better to do then arrest UO football players because then they get on TV when they do so.

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So...LA is corrupt b/c we are in the deep South. But Oregon isn't corrupt even though your police force arrests people simply b/c they do not like the school they attended and they want to get on TV (and get famous). Violating someone's Due Process does not equate to corruption in your part of the woods? Is that what you are saying? Don't answer that...JavaScript:AddSmileyIcon('%20 ')

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Any other assumptions you want to throw out there? I can do this all day long. Dispelling lies from SEC fans is very easy to do.

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No, you're doing a great job all by yourself. Keep it up, Killer, your logic is killing us!

I hate to bring it up, because I am sure your logic just went over my head, but I thought it was funny that you put down LA with your cliched statement

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This is not the deep South with all its corruptions and protections and good old boy club. Over here they would love nothing better to do then arrest UO football players because then they get on TV when they do so

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. Okay, so you think the South is corrupt and he would have been let go just b/c he is a football player. But then, you said:

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But had he done so, he probably would of made a bigger issue of it because the cops around over here know how famous the Ducks(as a team) are and if they arrest one, they get to be on TV and get all the media attention. So they get worse treatment, not preferred treatment. And if the cop had known,(which he did not) odds are he would of been a beaver fan and went extra hard on him just for that.

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So logically speaking, since you are so good at it and all, Harris would get off down here simply b/c he was a football player (and that makes our cops corrupt). But in your part of the world, the cops would arrest a football player simply b/c he is a football player even though they would not arrest a non-football player for the exact same violation. Further, your cops arrest someone that violates the law simply b/c he is a Duck. In my lowly opinion, your cops are the corrupt mother frickers.

Finally, this is a message board, Killer. Everyone makes assumptions & presumptions - that is why we are on here. If we knew all of the facts, we wouldn't need to be on here looking for them. So take your self-rightous post and shove it up your arse! Your post is filled w/ nothing but presumptions. Go to the Oregon board and try to prove your mental prowess to someone who gives a shite. You are a mental midget and I hope those corrupt Oregon cops arrest you!

BTW, are you taking a logic class? LOGIC FAIL!

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How can a cop, who stops a car doing 100+ mph, and a driver with a suspended license, let that person go with just a ticket.....

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Easy answer: Its Oregon buddy. This wonderful country of ours is made up of States. And each state gets to set its own laws.

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I think the cop is obviously a fan who bent the law and his duties to give the players a break that the normal public would NOT have received.

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One has to love the South and their assumptions games. I feel bad for you that you are in the SEC where you have to deal with massive Corruption on every level and as a result your brain assumes all deal in it too. Come out to Oregon, then talk. Or call some Police departments from your house. You do have a phone right? Ask them how it is over here and our laws. The fact that another passenger was a licensed driver allowed the cop to send him on his way. This is common. I feel bad that you have to live in LA and deal with Anal cops and stupid laws.

So you think a person driving 53 miles per hour over the speed limit is OK? What other rules/laws will you allow "Cliffy" to break???

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I think the cop is obviously a fan who bent the law and his duties to give the players a break that the normal public would NOT have received.

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Yea I don't really buy this either. If the cop really was a fan & was bending the law he woulda let Cliff & Co. go w/ a stern warning :winkwink:

Let's look at some real numbers. Modern BCS era only


Conference Wins Losses Winning Teams Losing Teams
SEC 7 0 Florida (2), LSU (2), Tennessee, Alabama, Auburn
Big 12 2 4 Oklahoma, Texas Nebraska, Oklahoma (2), Texas
ACC 1 2 Florida State Florida State (2)
Big East 1 2 Miami (FL)* Miami (FL)*, Virginia Tech*
Big Ten 1 2 Ohio State Ohio State (2)
Pac-10 0 (1 vacated) 1 (1 vacated) USC (vacated) Oregon, USC (vacated)


Team Appearances Wins Losses Percentage Title Seasons
Florida 2 2 0 1.000 2006, 2008
LSU 2 2 0 1.000 2003, 2007
Alabama 1 1 0 1.000 2009
Auburn 1 1 0 1.000 2010
Tennessee 1 1 0 1.000 1998
Texas 2 1 1 .500 2005
Miami (FL) 2 1 1 .500 2001
Ohio State 3 1 2 .333 2002
Florida State 3 1 2 .333 1999
Oklahoma 3 1 2 .333 2000
Nebraska 1 0 1 .000 ----
Oregon 1 0 1 .000 ----
Virginia Tech 1 0 1 .000 ----
USC 0 (2 vacated) 0 (1 vacated) 0 (1 vacated) .000 ----


Until your sad arse Conf/team starts getting some crystal balls do not come on a LSU board and Huff and Puff. If you'd like you can drive to LSU and Look at what a BCS championship looks like, since no Pac10 school currently has one.

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We don't however pay out players, as that would be a SEC thing.

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Oh right, the "holier than thou" Pac-10 just give their players free cars and houses.

Three questions... Was he driving with a suspended drivers license? YES Was he driving over 100 miles an hour? YES Did he endanger anyone else on the highway? YES There were three other people in the car. Enough Said. See you guys in Dallas.

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Oh right, the "holier than thou" Pac-10 just give their players free cars and houses.

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Actually that would be one team, USC. And USC(not Oregon btw) had a player(Bush) get paid by a NFL agent to LEAVE USC, not join USC. Major big difference. He never got paid by the school to come there, but yes his family did get paid by a NFL agent in the form of a future loan. Not saying that is right, but getting paid by NFL agents to sign with them is a far cry from a school's coaches paying a kid to join them, or booster to join them.

One is the school paying to join. The other is a NFL agent to LEAVE the school. I do not see how the later is a competitive advantage. And btw, USC fans would tell you they have 2 AP titles in those years. I am not a USC fan, but that is what they would tell you.