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On the pass ruled incomplete to Dupree
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:27 pm
Haven't seen it discussed. Did we ever get clarification as to why that wasn't a catch? The ref didn't specifically say "confirmed" or "plays stands as called." Am I wrong in thinking this was a catch? Clearly he bobbled it, but I also don't think it hit the ground.
This was a huge call on that drive. We were moving it and putting ourselves in position to get points and go up 17-0 or 21-0
This was a huge call on that drive. We were moving it and putting ourselves in position to get points and go up 17-0 or 21-0
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:29 pm to bwallcubfan
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I also don't think it hit the ground.
Takes more than that to overturn ruling on the field. I think it's as simple as that.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:29 pm to bwallcubfan
Not enough evidence to 100% overturn
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:30 pm to bwallcubfan
The original ruling on the field was that the pass was incomplete. The replay needed to show "indisputable" evidence that the pass was caught and didn't touch the ground. I thought the replay did show that, but it was too close for the refs to flip the original call.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:30 pm to Peliclown
yeah that's kind of what I assumed. I thought I saw enough, but I'm biased.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:31 pm to Larry
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I also don't think it hit the ground.
Takes more than that to overturn ruling on the field.
I agree with both. I am positive it didn't hit the ground, but you can't get video proof.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:31 pm to bwallcubfan
All I know is that in real time it didn't even look close to being a catch. After the review everyone except the officials seemed convinced that it was a catch
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:31 pm to hambones
I'll say it before anyone else does,
If it was Alabama, that would have been called a catch, no question about it.
If it was Alabama, that would have been called a catch, no question about it.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:31 pm to ForeverLSU02
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All I know is that in real time it didn't even look close to being a catch. After the review everyone except the officials seemed convinced that it was a catch
same here
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:32 pm to bwallcubfan
It really looked like a catch. But, it was one of those close plays that wasn't going to be reversed either way. If they called it a catch, replay would have ruled it a catch.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:34 pm to bwallcubfan
I thought it wasn't a catch just because Dupre didn't react at all. It may have been overturned if he acted like he caught it
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:35 pm to bwallcubfan
I don't see why we have have replay if the officials are going to treat it like a murder case when they are thinking about overturning a call. I understand making the wrong call on the field but come on, that was a catch.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:36 pm to Larry
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I thought it wasn't a catch just because Dupre didn't react at all.
They need to coach the kids to sell it better. I thought the same thing.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:40 pm to bwallcubfan
It was a catch but because it was called incomplete on the field the replay didnt clearly show them the ball never hit the ground as he obstructs the angle. You just have to "assume" he kept his arms underneath the ball as he goes down and the ball goes out of view...which is what happened, but they cant assume.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:44 pm to bwallcubfan
I thought Dupre was going to sell the catch. Not sure if it would have helped or not, but Dupre didn't seem to disagree with the call.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:44 pm to thunderbird1100
On the refereeing front, I admit I'm a Grade A homer but … Did anyone else think State got away with a handful of obvious picks? I know that's not called a ton, but their outside guys seemed to be deliberately crashing into defenders.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:45 pm to meauxses
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I don't see why we have have replay if the officials are going to treat it like a murder case when they are thinking about overturning a call. I understand making the wrong call on the field but come on, that was a catch.
I agree. If he was under it when he caught it, under it when he hit the ground, and had it when he came up, then I'm not sure how one thinks he doesn't have it during that 10th of a second when there wasn't a good view.
If they are going to take it so literal there is no way to have "indisputable evidence" to overturn what was ruled.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:48 pm to bwallcubfan
Always wondered why the call on the field matters so much. There has to be "sufficient evidence to overturn the call on the field." Shouldn't the goal of the officials be to make the most accurate decision regardless of what was called on the field?
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:49 pm to 33inNC
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If it was Alabama, that would have been called a catch, no question about it.
Yep
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:56 pm to bwallcubfan
The one angle that would have overturned it was never shown. It's possible the director had the end zone camera behind LSU's offense shooting the pass blocking or getting coach reax to the play. Had that camera followed the ball, we would have had a clear view of the ball the entire way.
What the other angles did show, though, is that the ball was not bobbled until Dupre was hit by the defender. Still needed that other end zone look to verify possession.
What the other angles did show, though, is that the ball was not bobbled until Dupre was hit by the defender. Still needed that other end zone look to verify possession.
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