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Posted on 7/21/17 at 8:23 am to
Posted by Thomas Williams
Member since Oct 2016
473 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 8:23 am to
People just don't deserve that kind of total happiness. Watching Les Miles coached Ole Miss Offense pitch back the football to the Rebel HB running straight off tackle over, and over, again.

Dreams like that only happen in heaven, right?
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10086 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 8:42 am to
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Say what you want about his record at Ole Miss, but Ed Orgeron did a better job last year as head coach at LSU than Les.
I recall both staffs losing to the only teams on the schedule worth a damn.
In fact CEO lost by twice the points, and one of the losses to a 14pt dog made of mostly 2nd team.
Posted by kevv824
Member since Sep 2006
2386 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:43 am to
Alabama gets Nick Saban and Ole Miss gets Les? :lol: at Ole Miss
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:32 pm to
" I don't get the disdain for Les"

It only comes from those who have no clue as to how difficult it is to win in college/SEC football the way that Miles did. When you show disdain for a coach who is the only coach in SEC football from 2005 through 2016 to average 10 wins a yr, you are only showing your lack of understanding the difficulty that comes with maintaining success of an SEC football program.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20257 posts
Posted on 7/21/17 at 8:23 pm to
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There could be nothing worse than Orgeron falling apart and Les building a powerhouse at Ole Miss like Saban did at Bama.


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Da fun are u smoking?


Nobody thought Saban would leave LSU - he left.
Nobody thought Saban would leave the Dolphins in the middle of barely getting started - he left.
Nobody thought Saban would come back to the SEC, let alone a team he damn well knew would crush the souls of one of his former teams... he did.
Nobody thought he'd literally turn them into the most dominant program in the history of college football, let alone beat his former team EVERY SINGLE YEAR... and he did.

Maybe you completely forgot what Les was able to do here but don't ever think for a second the impossible can't be achieved elsewhere in this conference. It's easy to think you'll be able to say "I TOLD YOU SO!!!" And he just come in here and lose every year.

But what if you're wrong. I'm sure they thought Orgeron would light it up in Oxford.. he didn't.

You might think Les can't succeed in Oxford.

He can.

Why don't we just hope he doesn't coach there so we don't have to worry about it?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:03 pm to
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You must think Larry Coaker is a great coach too. Better win pct at the U than Miles at LSU went undefeated and appeared in back to back national title games Miles didn't accomplish eithe


Larry Coker's great seasons were in the big East. not the same.
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Guess that wasn't a result of talent he was just an outstanding coach. 

where are Saban's titles without talent? I'll wait while you list all the cfb national title winners that didn't have talent. the list doesnt exist.
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I like how you left out the part about OSU being on probation before Miles got there too


you act like this doesnt help my argument that miles took over a shite program at Oklahoma State. your hate for miles has actually made you think that a program on probation somehow makes that program better.

I talk about how miles took over a program with 1 winning season in the previous 13 years(it was 12 years I apologize. 1989-2001) and you think you're hurting my argument by saying oklahoma state had been on probation?

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And I dunno where you're getting 13 years from they won 8 games in 97, 4 years before he arrived and won 4 games.




he went to a program with 1 winning season from 1988-2001 and had 3 straight winning seasons and had them winning 8 & 9 games.

if ed orgeron had done that at ole miss youd be rubbing one out to his picture every night.

it's telling that you do nothing but argue against anything that doesnt paint miles as a shite coach.

whether you like it or not his tenure at lsu was better than Saban's tenure.

whether you like it or not Miles took over a shite Oklahoma State program that had 1 winning season from 1989-2001 and had them winning 8 and 9 games. the fact the you want to deny that juat let's everyone know you just want to shite on miles. you actually believe that saying Oklahoma State program had been on probation somehow doesnt support my claim of the program being shite.

from 1989-2001 Oklahoma State program won more than 4 games just 3 times.
but sure they weren't a shite program.

what's funny is that you claim lsu was a crap program when Saban took over and lsu was in far better shape than oklahoma state was.
it's just further proves your constant need to shite on miles.
This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 7:10 pm
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 11:23 pm to
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Say what you want about his record at Ole Miss, but Ed Orgeron did a better job last year as head coach at LSU than Les.
I recall both staffs losing to the only teams on the schedule worth a damn.
In fact CEO lost by twice the points, and one of the losses to a 14pt dog made of mostly 2nd team.


I recall Orgeron beating a team by four touchdowns on the road that had bitch slapped us by 17 points the previous two years under Miles, both times as a big underdog, once when they were riding a 2-year-plus SEC losing streak.

I also recall Orgeron beating Ole Miss by double digits in Tiger Stadium, something no LSU coach has been able to do since Gerry DiNardo did it more than two decades earlier.

I also remember Orgeron beating the dog shite out of outmanned opponents instead of struggling for three quarters like Miles did against Jacksonville State or having to stave off a late rally to win by 3 like he did against Mississippi State.

And as for the Florida loss, we shot ourselves in the head about 10 times in that game. The players heads were not in the game, obviously, so yes you can put that on the coach, I guess, but from a game-planning, play-calling and scheme standpoint, we dominated that game.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 3:31 am to
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recall Orgeron beating a team by four touchdowns on the road that had bitch slapped us by 17 points the previous two years under Miles, both times as a big underdog, once when they were riding a 2-year-plus SEC losing streak. 



2015 arky- 11th in the country in opponents rushing yards per game
2016 arky- 89th in the country in opponents rushing yards per game

2015 arky gave up 170 yards or more rushing just 1 time.
2016 arky gave up 300 yards or more rushing 3 times.
2016 arky gave up 170 yards or more rushing 7 times


it's no fair to act like 2015 arky was the same as 2016 arky

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also remember Orgeron beating the dog shite out of outmanned opponents instead of struggling for three quarters like Miles did against Jacksonville State or having to stave off a late rally to win by 3 like he did against Mississippi State. 

we were tied at the half with southern Mississippi

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d as for the Florida loss, we shot ourselves in the head about 10 times in that game. The players heads were not in the game, obviously, so yes you can put that on the coach, I guess, but from a game-planning, play-calling and scheme standpoint, we dominated that game.



our red zone execution was crap regardless of the turnovers.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 12:36 pm to
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2015 arky- 11th in the country in opponents rushing yards per game
2016 arky- 89th in the country in opponents rushing yards per game

2015 arky gave up 170 yards or more rushing just 1 time.
2016 arky gave up 300 yards or more rushing 3 times.
2016 arky gave up 170 yards or more rushing 7 times


it's no fair to act like 2015 arky was the same as 2016 arky

2014 Arky: 0-17 in SEC games over the previous 2 years plus, beat LSU 17-0

In 2013, Les Miles came within a miracle 99-yard drive by Jennings against Arkansas of being the only coach in college football that year for sure, and maybe ever, to lose straight up to a 4-touchdown underdog TWICE in one season.
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