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Off-season Weights/Conditioning

Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:15 am
Posted by kwf9
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
93 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:15 am
Hope Moffitt turns up the juice this off-season and turns the guys into some savages!!!
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54568 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:22 am to
he will.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
8737 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:23 am to
It also has a lot to do with how bad the players want it.

Can’t half arse it in the off season.
Posted by LMfan
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:28 am to
wait til Moffitt gets a hold of em
Posted by Cargeaux89
Memphis
Member since Oct 2016
1120 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:31 am to
A lot of it I believe comes down to holding the players accountable. I have a friend that was a part of Alabama's player personal management 3 years ago. He told me that players for Bama are not only expected to maintain a certain weight, but a certain body fat % as well or they will be punished. This is why they look like freaks, cause they take their nutrition and treat their conditioning like a national champion should.
This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 8:32 am
Posted by NWLA Tiguh12
Member since Jul 2015
2402 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:34 am to
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It also has a lot to do with how bad the players want it.
100% has to do with how bad the players want it. Eat right and bust arse, you will see results. Too much gumbo and lazy, Moffitt gets the heat.
Posted by brightside878
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
1563 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:39 am to
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Moffitt gets the heat


Is it fair for Moffit to get the heat when we’re out-physicaled by a third of the teams on our schedule?
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18138 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:46 am to
certainly strength and conditioning is important, but this board puts too much emphasis on it.

I estimate S&C is responsible for only a small sliver of a player's performance. The vast majority of a player's performance is due to his innate ability. After that, technique development by the coaches, putting that player in the right position and scheme, motivation. S&C is a far distant factor.

Now of course, I want a top-notch S&C program (just like all other aspects of the football program), but merely having a great S&C program won't transform average players into elite players.
This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 8:48 am
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
9166 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:48 am to
Gumbo - no rice
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12576 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:50 am to
quote:

Moffitt gets the heat


As he should, he's in charge of the Weight/conditioning.

I personally think it's time for a change and bring in new blood
Posted by OppositeMan
Member since Apr 2018
1853 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:51 am to
quote:

Hope Moffitt turns up the juice this off-season and turns the guys into some savages!!!


There's likely a lot of added pressure on him right now, and I think that's justified. I hope he comes through in flying colors.
Posted by OppositeMan
Member since Apr 2018
1853 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:54 am to
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A lot of it I believe comes down to holding the players accountable. I have a friend that was a part of Alabama's player personal management 3 years ago. He told me that players for Bama are not only expected to maintain a certain weight, but a certain body fat % as well or they will be punished. This is why they look like freaks, cause they take their nutrition and treat their conditioning like a national champion should.


It's easy to punish a star player when you have another waiting right behind them. This is where recruiting depth comes into play.

But, yeah, what Bama is doing seems like a no-brainer. I'm just not sure most other teams CAN do what they're doing, because most other teams don't have the tools at their disposal.
Posted by NWLA Tiguh12
Member since Jul 2015
2402 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:54 am to
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:55 am to
quote:

I have a friend that was a part of Alabama's player personal management 3 years ago


quote:

This is why they look like freaks, cause they take their nutrition and treat their conditioning like a national champion should.

Although we all know this to be very true. Alabama in my mind(I have zero proof) is cheating at a level that is beyond the norm. There is no way in hell that just eating right and training alone can make one team look so much more superior to it opponents.

Not in this day and age of training technology that just about every P5 team is using.

Sorry, just know way in hell. They are doing things over there and getting away with it! Again, just my two cents!
This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 9:05 am
Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6369 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:57 am to
quote:

Hope Moffitt turns up the juice this off-season and turns the guys into some savages!!!


i hope you are right.

i remember one key fact about the 07 NC Team.

i remember that team didnt have very many injuries if any at all...I also remember them doing something ive never seen a football team do....that was yoga...

Flame if you want but i believe the reason they didnt have as many injuries was partly due to them being more flexible from the yoga they did that summer/fall. It was something that really stuck out to me and always has. I wondered why we dont do it or why other teams dont do it...Maybe they do it jus isnt talked about
Posted by Sailin Tiger
Member since Jul 2014
1461 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:58 am to
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I estimate S&C is responsible for only a small sliver of a player's performance.


This is just wrong. Elite S&C is absolutely vital to the on field product and performance.
This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 9:00 am
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18138 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:58 am to
quote:

certainly strength and conditioning is important, but this board puts too much emphasis on it.

I estimate S&C is responsible for only a small sliver of a player's performance. The vast majority of a player's performance is due to his innate ability. After that, technique development by the coaches, putting that player in the right position and scheme, motivation. S&C is a far distant factor.

Now of course, I want a top-notch S&C program (just like all other aspects of the football program), but merely having a great S&C program won't transform average players into elite players.
to all the downvoters, you do realize that all of our opponents also have top-notch S&C programs too, and their players are working out over the off-season too.

And if strength is so important, why don't world-class weightlighters, or those Scandnavian worlds strongest men play in the NFL?
Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6369 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:00 am to
quote:

The vast majority of a player's performance is due to his innate ability. After that, technique development by the coaches, putting that player in the right position and scheme, motivation. S&C is a far distant factor.


Sounds like you have never played a sport in your life...S&C are a huge part...A player can be put in the right position every time and if he is gasping for air because he is out of shape...he will not make the tackle,block,run etc.
Posted by Sailin Tiger
Member since Jul 2014
1461 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:01 am to
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And if strength is so important, why don't world-class weightlighters, or those Scandnavian worlds strongest men play in the NFL?


Different interests and different area of emphasis in training. Do you think those guys don't train?
Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6369 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:03 am to
quote:

And if strength is so important, why don't world-class weightlighters, or those Scandnavian worlds strongest men play in the NFL?


its strength and conditioning.....not just strength...A world class weight lifter or the strongest man i bet cant run a 10 min mile or have the agility it requires to play football...There sport requires them to lift heavy arse stuff one time at most a few times...Football is a balance of lifting and having the conditioning to do it every play
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