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Obviously Kelly would've loved keeping all 3...

Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:17 pm
Posted by GarTiger
West Monroe
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Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:17 pm
but if he had to pick one to lose, would he have picked Howard? I would have to think so. The point that's been made ad nauseam here, which was almost always a stone cold lock, was that he in fact, would lose one.

Ok...here's the more controversial take. CFB has created the environment for these kids to come and go through colleges like a Wendy's drive-thru. Loyalty on both sides of this equation is long gone.

Maybe it's all in how things get handled. Maybe in Howard's case, he was the QB version of Leonard Fournette. We have been waiting on him since 8th grade because he was an La. kid, a H.S. legend and a legacy. It stings more I think, because of those factors.

Having said that, anyone blaming this kid for leaving has either never played in the modern era of CFB or never had kids go through this. I have and it's not so simple when it's your family. This kid, who has spent his whole life prepping for CFB was being asked to spend at least half his college eligibility running scout team offenses. Would you advise your kid to do that if you were Jaime? Think about it before you blow me up.

Listen, I don't like what's happened to CFB. If there were no portal, we wouldn't have 3 excellent QB's on our roster. Kid's now can "roll the dice" on going to their "dream school" and if it doesn't break their way, they can go do it again.

I think CFB caused this and I find it hard to blame a kid for taking advantage of it. I wish every kid that signed with LSU loved it like I do. The truth is, they love playing football more than the school they sign with. Now they love the money and fame from NIL more than the schools they sign with.

Again, Howard is an La. kid. He was supposed to stay because of his love for the state, school and his legacy dad. He will now be hated by a portion of this fanbase and I personally think unfairly. I bet you there's one person that understands this and doesn't blame the kid...Brian Kelly!
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50346 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:19 pm to
Do you know how many 4 star and 5 star QB's washout? like half. You take the sure thing all day.
Posted by Earthquake 88
Mobile
Member since Jan 2010
3011 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:20 pm to
Strong possibility that LSU coaching staff told him you might want to start looking because we don’t think you will ever start here. That stuff happens all the time behind closed doors. Recruiting rankings are hard to nail on many of these QBs.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
8739 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:22 pm to
It sets up perfectly for it to be Howard to leave.

2024 Daniels
2025 Nuss
2026 Nuss
2027 Collins/Hurley take over with a loaded squad
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:23 pm to
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Having said that, anyone blaming this kid for leaving has either never played in the modern era of CFB or never had kids go through this


bullshite... he never even competed for the starting job. He came in and demanded to be redshirted... was redshirted... then dipped out.
That's bullshite.
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 4:24 pm
Posted by hashtag
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Member since Aug 2005
27496 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:24 pm to
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This kid, who has spent his whole life prepping for CFB was being asked to spend at least half his college eligibility running scout team offenses.
bruh. He redshirted. This upcoming year, he will be a freshman. And we signed another QB who would have likely run the scout team this year. None of your post is factual.

The kid, or his daddy, either didn't want to compete with Nuss or didn't believe he could pass up Nuss.
Posted by GarTiger
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2019
2293 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:24 pm to
Agree. That's why I think its really ridiculous to hate on this kid. Maybe he just isn't what we all thought he was. Maybe he is and is just behind 2 guys that are currently better and there was no reason for CBK to lie to him about next year. Regardless, I think this decision make a lot of sense for him. He doesn't owe me anything!
Posted by GarTiger
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:26 pm to
You simply don't know that but that's the narrative people that want to believe that will go with. Your opinion...it's as good as mine in terms of importance.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24656 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

2024 Nuss 2025 Nuss 2026 Nuss 2027 Collins/Hurley take over with a loaded squad


FIFY
Posted by GarTiger
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2019
2293 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:29 pm to
So how many meaningful reps do you think the 3rd string QB gets at a school like LSU? So he doesn't run the scout team. That means he has less involvement than last year. Plain and simple, he understood he was behind Nuss for at least 2 years and he decided to try and go where he could play. Why is this so hard to understand and accept?
Posted by GarTiger
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2019
2293 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:30 pm to
So you agree that if Kelly had to cut one QB, Howard would've been the guy? If we can understand that, Walker/Jamie can too.
Posted by coondaddy21
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
3222 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:44 pm to
I am not upset at all about him leaving. If he was my kid, I would be advising him to look around for an opportunity to play and get that experience. With that being said, I believe we have the best 2 options on the team left. I would have been more upset with losing Nuss. I wish Howard luck and hope it’s in a conference not named SEC.
Posted by GarTiger
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2019
2293 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:45 pm to
Yep
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
8739 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 5:02 pm to
He’s not cutting anyone. Walker didn’t want to compete. He wants second string or starter handed to him.

I don’t think he’s dumb for transferring, because he won’t see the field for a while, but the fact of the matter is that he does not want to earn it, or doesn’t think he can
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
4465 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

Strong possibility that LSU coaching staff told him you might want to start looking because we don’t think you will ever start here. That stuff happens all the time behind closed doors. Recruiting rankings are hard to nail on many of these QBs.


Throwing the BS flag on this one.

I have a hard time that any coach ever tells a kid coming off of a redshirt year that the coaches don’t think he will ever start.

Do you have any idea the changes mentally and physically happen to kids from 18-21? Injuries? Other transfers? You are simply wrong about this one, earth.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
7027 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 5:20 pm to
I think you make some good points, some that I agree with...

quote:

roll the dice" on going to their "dream school" and if it doesn't break their way
This is the epitome of what's wrong with our culture now. Need for immediate validation without sacrifice. If it were truly your dream school, you'd hang around for at least one full year
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27496 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

he understood he was behind Nuss for at least 2 years and he decided to try and go where he could play. Why is this so hard to understand and accept?
it's not. I literally said that either him, or his daddy, didn't want him to compete against Nuss or didn't believe he could beat him out. But, your post has 2 incorrect details.

1. He likely wasn't running the scout team for 2023.
2. Even if he did, it would be for his redshirt freshman year and he'd have 3 years after that. So, that isn't half of his eligibility.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
7027 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 5:37 pm to
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GarTiger


How much do you want to bet this guy is from the Lafayette area, and maybe makes a game a year?
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 6:09 pm to
quote:

How much do you want to bet this guy is from the Lafayette area

I'm from Lafayette and think this is a bitch move by Howard.

He's either scared to compete, doesn't think he can beat out Nuss in 2024 or has some sort of beef with the staff.

Spare me the "he doesn't want to be third string" bullshite. That's pretty much the same as saying he's scared to compete.
Posted by Sevensblue
Las Vegas
Member since Apr 2022
994 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 6:17 pm to
Disagree. I think he wants to play this upcoming season not in 2024. Kids can make the NFL coming from the smallest schools like Wyoming...playing time is most important not fear of competition i think
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