Nick Saban has to implement a new game plan now

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The last 6 games Saban could just pull out his old folder of "how to beat LSU" which consists of stopping the toss dive the entire game.

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Unfortunately, i guess you didn't realize they used the toss to l.f. on one of his long runs against ole miss?

This is the most overused, silly comment. When it works people cheer, when it doesn't, it's a stupid play.

Kind of like the short side option. When keeling williams takes it to the house against v. tech. it's a good play, when stuffed, it's a bad play.

Was Les to conservative? yes. However, to make fun a play that was just used to break a offensive record is just ignorant.

He now must watch for the play action

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The last 6 games Saban could just pull out his old folder of "how to beat LSU" which consists of stopping the toss dive the entire game.

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Unfortunately, i guess you didn't realize they used the toss to l.f. on one of his long runs against ole miss?

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I think the important point of his post was "the entire game" as in it was overused.


If my wife made my favorite meal EVERY NIGHT....I'd eventually decide it was no longer my favorite.


BTW, I was a "Miles Supporter" until the Wicy game. So, it is not as if I am anti-Miles or that play. They just BOTH got overdone.

Its been covered, but I'm replying anyway.

Running toss dive =/= running toss dive into 10 men in the box. When you have fullbacks like we do, you've got a lead blocker that can wreak havoc and spring a guy like Fournette or Guice.

But its still a numbers game. So if the other team cheats up on the line, having a lead blocker doesn't mean anything. They've still got numbers.

But when you (gasp) actually show a little diversity on offense and use the play action effectively, you can run things like toss dive because the defense has to respect the pass. Then you've got a guy that, if he makes a block and your RB can hit that next gear, he can take it to the house.

We are actually going to complete mid to long passes consistently and it will open up the running game for Fournette and Guice and play action will actually work this time.

It will be an interesting game to watch.

Gone are the "I'm going to toss dive every other play with my stud RB and hope we wear the best defense in football out by the 4th quarter days"

I predict a toss dive, ran at the right time, is going to go for big yards this game, because it will be actually set up properly.

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I don't understand where you're coming from. we don't hate the toss dive. we hate it when it's 90% of the offense and the other team knows it's coming every time.

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False statement. Was never used 90% of the time.

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do you think it's a coincidence that LF7 played over 2 dozen games under les miles, and then he played one under Coach O and set the single game all-time record for Yardage by a tailback?

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LF set the season record last year. it's not like he was performing poorly prior to O. He was a Heisman candidate for goodness sakes. You are discrediting l.f.'s talent and ability. he was very close to breaking the single game rushing record last year and would have done it against syracuse if not for a couple long runs called back on penalties.

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it's because the other time didn't know WHEN we were going to run the toss dive and couldn't load up the box.

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ole miss loaded the box most of the night. It's why l.f. got the long runs. Once you break the line of scrimmage, no one left to get you. It's not like they had two deep safeties waiting on him 15 yards from the line of scrimmage.

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it's not that hard a concept to grasp

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It must be because you haven't grasped the offense isn't much different. Two things are different. 1) the qb is playing much better and recognizing the second option better. 2) Wisconsin and Au defenses are some of the best in the country. Southern Miss, Mizzou, and Ole Miss, are not.

I knew when Nick Saban, Hugh Freeze, etc were all sad and disappointed that Miles was gone that we had made the correct decision

Now all the game film they've had on us for the last 3 seasons is worthless. An unpredictable LSU is the most dangerous LSU

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Dumbassery
LSU attempted to throw every every Bama game or do you forget the game changing INTs?
Saban will play hat on hat with hi FS as always- not reinvent his D lol

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He never said Saban would have to actually reinvent Bama's defense, just adjust the game plan from what he knew was Miles' all too predictable dog and pony show.

Les was setting up the toss dive reverse flee-flicker tight end throw back, but never got the chance to use it. Maybe CEO will try it play 1 from scrimmage.

Seriously though. If you paid attention to the offense, it's not a ton different, but has added the wrinkles necessary that Miles just wouldn't implement. Specifically formations like an offset I with both RBs, and I'm not sure the name of the formation, but it set up with I-form, 2 WR to one side and TE to the other on the line, and they were running to the tight end side. It pulls the safeties to a more balanced position and keeps the front 7 in a base look where they can't just crowd the line because the threat to pass. I think LF broke a couple long ones in this against Ole Miss and when they adjusted to stop LF, they passed to the TE and utilized some WR crossing routes.

I'm sure it won't be as easy against Bama, but at least there's rhyme and reason behind trying to take advantage of formations. Les' biggest drawback was a lack of formation creativity/advantages and his predictability of play calling out of certain packages.

So long post to say,