re: My take on Les and the QB situ (long)

YAYYYYY...another thread about Les Miles and the QB situation

:banghead: :banghead:

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Some LSU fans just look at the very few schools that have unusually sustained success with landing/developing QB and think that's the norm. It's not.

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It is the norm when you have a talented development staff, and understand what you want to do on offense. Ie. Patterson, Briles, Harbaugh, Leach etc. How many of there usually (FAR LESS TALNTED, and not highly ranked coming out of HS) go on to start, play well early and usually have multi-year illustrious careers?

Please don't blame this on the fact that LSU hasn't brought in talent at the QB position. And, don't think that this issue doesn't have a ton to do with what talent we haven't brought in.

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Patterson

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Patterson should have started boykin ever since the LSU loss and didn't. He mismanaged his qb position.

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Does it really matter? Bama has proven that you can win in college football with sub-par non-NFL QB's. Just sayin.

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You're joking right? Biggest difference is Winning. And ofcourse that Bama used 3 qb's in 10 years...

My reason for the thread is that I am tired of hearing pumpers act like Miles hasn't created the QB situation that he is in

Misery- his words

And I am sorry I have this gravitational ability to force you to open this thread. Too bad I can't use this talent to help Les develop a QB.

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Of that list (setting aside Brandon Harris as it’s so early in his career), there are only two that were/are even close to NFL QB talent, and when I mean close, I mean, can you even get invited to the Combine?  IN TEN FREAKING YEARS.

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I agree with a lot of stuff you said, but this is silly. For the record it doesn't matter if you have a good QB, you are not going to have many "NFL talents" in 10 years

Let's review some of the team QBs in the SEC over that span. I have no idea how many of these guys went to the combine, but 2 in a 10 year span is average. Also, you can't count Harris out yet.

LSU -
Russell
Flynn
Mett
(Perriloux would have, but yeaaaaah)

Bama 10 years - (Saban 8 years)
Wilson (meh kinda)
McElroy
McCarron


Auburn -
Todd
Newton

Arkansas -
Mallet
Wilson

MSU -
Russell
Prescott

Ole Miss -
Snead
Wallace

TAMU -
McGee (meh kinda)
Johnson
Tannehill
Manziel

USCe -
Garcia
Shaw
Thompson

UF -
Leak
Tebow

UGA -
Shockley
Stafford
Cox (meh, kinda, sorta)
Murray
Mason

Tennessee -
Ainge
Crompton
Bray

UK -
Woodson
Hartline

Mizzu -
Daniels
Gabbert
Franklin

Vandy -
Cutler


Les Miles QBs also own like 5 of LSU's top 10-11 passing seasons.

IMO, they strike gold with Harris who will be here for three more years.

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It is the norm when you have a talented development staff, and understand what you want to do on offense. Ie. Patterson, Briles, Harbaugh, Leach etc. How many of there usually (FAR LESS TALNTED, and not highly ranked coming out of HS) go on to start, play well early and usually have multi-year illustrious careers?

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Leach's QBs were never great. They were just air raid, throw on every down, dink and donk, system QBs. Briles has something going but Patterson has been at TCU since 2002 and his only QBs of note are Dalton, Pachall 1 year, and Boykin 1 year.

JJ was better than all but three of Patterson's QBs at TCU (I'd say tie with Ballard). Harbaugh had the very talented Luck, and that was it. There is nothing else to go on with him.

I wish you had looked around instead of spouting off names like you knew what the hell you were talking about.

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our results are probably about average to above average relative to the rest of college football

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so to make yourself feel better, you're now comparing us to the rest of college football?

We're an elite program. I don't care how we compare to the rest of the country, I care about how we compare to the 15 or so very good programs that typically are in the mix championships. Are more specifically, how we compare to the teams in our conference.

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Leach's QBs were never great. They were just air raid, throw on every down, dink and donk, system QBs. Briles has something going but Patterson has been at TCU since 2002 and his only QBs of note are Dalton, Pachall 1 year, and Boykin 1 year.

JJ was better than all but three of Patterson's QBs at TCU (I'd say tie with Ballard). Harbaugh had the very talented Luck, and that was it. There is nothing else to go on with him.

I wish you had looked around instead of spouting off names like you knew what the hell you were talking about.

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Hey Dummy! Numbers never lie. Check the QB production of any of those guys, and while you're at it, check the passing record books on them.

The point you missed was that one of those guys can take far less talented guys and make them super successful at their position because of how they're coached and developed. They all know what they want to do on offense, and when they're clicking, there is not much a defense can do when facing a great passing attack. Not saying we need to go air raid, but can you imagine what kind of success on offense we could see with a true commitment to a passing game. The balance with this running game would be lethal. We've seen glimpses in the past with 2011 season, and with Cam/Mett last year.

So in short you want MiLes fired........GOT IT