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My post from after Troy...
Posted on 10/16/17 at 7:05 am
Posted on 10/16/17 at 7:05 am
Declining experience in Tiger Stadium...
Posted by champj3 on 10/7/17 at 8:38 am
As a 42 year old Tiger fan and graduate in '97, I have felt since 1/9/12 that the LSU fan experience has steadily declined through the 2016 season. Not only because the team has struggled to find its once dominant form from 2001-2011, but because of the following:
1. 2005 (running 40 sec play clock)& 2008 (game clock starts on ball placement not play start) time change rules. Both directly lead to hurry up offensive styles in the current decade. CBS/ESPN/ABC now use 30/45min more of commercial time then in 2004, and games are still 3.5hrs. The in game experience is now too disjointed by commercial breaks leading to current ADD fan disinterest and early departure.
2. My expectation of SEC West champions or bust. From 2012-2016 the SEC West ranked number 1 for degree of difficulty across all college football. Couple this with a mentality of wins being expected and loses crippling. Not having fun with either!
3. No experience is better than the ride to the top. Starting with the '95 Auburn game and '97 Florida game, Tiger stadium had a feel to it through the 2012 Bama game. It's diminished since with fan expectations sky high, cringing even when the Tigers win.
What I think we need is a return to early 2000's expectations similar to the 2003 Georgia game. What makes Tiger Stadium magical is the collective fan excitement of beating a great team as a definitive underdog.
We are now there!
Let the bashing begin!!!
Posted by champj3 on 10/7/17 at 8:38 am
As a 42 year old Tiger fan and graduate in '97, I have felt since 1/9/12 that the LSU fan experience has steadily declined through the 2016 season. Not only because the team has struggled to find its once dominant form from 2001-2011, but because of the following:
1. 2005 (running 40 sec play clock)& 2008 (game clock starts on ball placement not play start) time change rules. Both directly lead to hurry up offensive styles in the current decade. CBS/ESPN/ABC now use 30/45min more of commercial time then in 2004, and games are still 3.5hrs. The in game experience is now too disjointed by commercial breaks leading to current ADD fan disinterest and early departure.
2. My expectation of SEC West champions or bust. From 2012-2016 the SEC West ranked number 1 for degree of difficulty across all college football. Couple this with a mentality of wins being expected and loses crippling. Not having fun with either!
3. No experience is better than the ride to the top. Starting with the '95 Auburn game and '97 Florida game, Tiger stadium had a feel to it through the 2012 Bama game. It's diminished since with fan expectations sky high, cringing even when the Tigers win.
What I think we need is a return to early 2000's expectations similar to the 2003 Georgia game. What makes Tiger Stadium magical is the collective fan excitement of beating a great team as a definitive underdog.
We are now there!
Let the bashing begin!!!
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Posted on 10/16/17 at 7:51 am to champj3
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CBS/ESPN/ABC now use 30/45min more of commercial time then in 2004, and games are still 3.5hrs. The in game experience is now too disjointed by commercial breaks leading to current ADD fan disinterest and early departure.
Accurate.
Before TV became standard in every game, there were very few breaks in the game. Long and frequent stoppages of play are boring. Stadiums have responded with fake scoreboard car races, piped in crappy music, and flashy bands around the perimeter.
This is also not football,and it degrades the game experience.
Kick off times shifted to 2:30 and and 6:30 put people in the sun and some stuck at work or commuting to game.
Prices (ticket increases, TAF fees, pay to park, and concessions) have priced many ardent fans out. Many tickets are now owned by people who view the game as just a part of their Saturday entertainment, and not the cause for their existence. Leaving early is often preplaned, and blow outs are now a reason to go do something else.
Disagree with expectations and underdog stuff mostly. All programs fluctuate up and down and attendance will change somewhat as well. But will agree that the shift in expectations have changed the makeup of the average ticket holder. Less die hard fans that will sit through a loss in the cold rain, and more fair weather "fans" that leave as soon as their entertainment expectations are not met.
Posted on 10/16/17 at 7:52 am to champj3
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once dominant form from 2001-2011,
We didn't dominate anyone in 2002,2004,2008, and 2009
Those seasons were similar to this one so far besides the loss to Troy
Posted on 10/16/17 at 8:05 am to Midtiger farm
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We didn't dominate anyone in 2002,2004,2008, and 2009
2002: beat #16th ranked Florida 36-7 in the swamp
2004: best #21st ranked arkansas 41-14 in Little Rock
2008: beat 14th ranked Georgia Tech 38-3
2009: perhaps no “dominant” wins over ranked opponents but still trounced auburn 31-10 and beat 14th ranked UGA in Athens 20-13.
You, Midtiger farm poster, are fake news.
Posted on 10/16/17 at 8:10 am to Sampson
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2002: beat #16th ranked Florida 36-7 in the swamp
2004: best #21st ranked arkansas 41-14 in Little Rock
2008: beat 14th ranked Georgia Tech 38-3
2009: perhaps no “dominant” wins over ranked opponents but still trounced auburn 31-10 and beat 14th ranked UGA in Athens 20-13.
We had good games but we lost 3-5 games in every one of these years, played down to opponents, and got blown out a few times.
Posted on 10/16/17 at 8:12 am to Midtiger farm
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We had good games but we lost 3-5 games in every one of these years, played down to opponents, and got blown out a few times.
What teams did better in that stretch of time?
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