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re: Miles/Payton
Posted on 2/8/10 at 5:23 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 2/8/10 at 5:23 pm to Ace Midnight
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Does Saban's two years at Miami and his first year at Bama make him "below average"?
Saban sucked at Miami. If you want to compare the NFL to college football records than have at it. Saban is a great college coach, a below average NFL coach. He lost the 2007 Bama team as many of their fans would tell you. They don't have those discipline problems anymore though.
His 1st year at Bama they were rebuilding, and they certainly were not a good team. So yea, I'd say Bama was an average team.
Definitely the same situation though. You really didn't think that was a good point, did you?
This post was edited on 2/8/10 at 5:31 pm
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Posted on 2/8/10 at 5:31 pm to LSUSUPERSTAR
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What part of this do you disagree with? Explain in detail please.
quote:Every College coach in America has made poor choices in recruiting & Game management. UAB? That is the University of Alabama Birmingham beating LSU in Tiger Stadium.
He has made poor choices in recruiting, coaching hires and game management.
quote:Post ALL the other NCAA Coaches who have an equal or better record at 1 school in 5 years.
He is not one of the best coaches in the NCAA.
This post was edited on 2/8/10 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 2/8/10 at 5:34 pm to Sammich
quote:
Miles - 66 Games: 51-15 *5 Winning Seasons
Payton - 69 Games: 42-27 *2 Winning Seasons, 1 losing season & 1 8-8 season.
NFL =/= college
Do you really believe that Miles is a better football coach than Payton? Winning in the NFL is a lot harder than winning in college football
This post was edited on 2/8/10 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 2/8/10 at 5:39 pm to TigerBait1127
Ive been to coaches clinics where both SP and LM have been there together... heard bth speak and for you to say or incinuate one is better than the other is stupid.
Mainly b/c you have no clue and secondly b/c SP is now the "flava" of the week/year.
GTFO.
Mainly b/c you have no clue and secondly b/c SP is now the "flava" of the week/year.
GTFO.
Posted on 2/8/10 at 5:39 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:
Winning in the NFL is a lot harder than winning in college football
is it>?
Posted on 2/8/10 at 5:39 pm to TigerBait1127
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NFL =/= college
Agreed.
quote:
Do you really believe that Miles is a better football coach than Payton?
Yes, and his record shows that.
quote:Well, I guess it really is much harder to break out the 'ol American Express Card and go buy any player you want, than to convince a recruit to come play at your school & get an Education, while playing Football.
Winning in the NFL is a lot harder than winning in college football
Posted on 2/8/10 at 5:40 pm to TIGRLEE
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for you to say or incinuate one is better than the other is stupid.
why is that stupid?
Posted on 2/8/10 at 5:44 pm to Jones
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why is that stupid?
Posted on 2/8/10 at 5:44 pm to timlan2057
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Oh, these poor widdle bitchers and moaners don't like Miles's "public speaking."
and the fact that he's a terrible coach
Posted on 2/8/10 at 5:46 pm to Sammich
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Well, I guess it really is much harder to break out the 'ol American Express Card and go buy any player you want, than to convince a recruit to come play at your school & get an Education, while playing Football.
this is just full of stupid.
About Miles' record, how many of those wins have come from beating the crap out of terrible teams(ULL,Tulane, insert non-football school, etc)?
About buying players on a credit card, are the Saints the only team allowed to do this? If anything, we are at a disadvantage because we are a very small market for an NFL team.
Posted on 2/8/10 at 5:47 pm to TIGRLEE
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heard bth speak and for you to say or incinuate one is better than the other is stupid.
you obviously dont listen to their press conferences
Posted on 2/8/10 at 5:53 pm to Jones
It wasnt a press conf einstein.
Im sorry though,,, you are right...a mans ability to publicly speak is waht determines his ability to coach football.
Im sorry though,,, you are right...a mans ability to publicly speak is waht determines his ability to coach football.
This post was edited on 2/8/10 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 2/8/10 at 5:53 pm to Jones
quote:
this is just full of stupid.
About Miles' record, how many of those wins have come from beating the crap out of terrible teams(ULL,Tulane, insert non-football school, etc)?
About buying players on a credit card, are the Saints the only team allowed to do this? If anything, we are at a disadvantage because we are a very small market for an NFL team.
Congrats to Tome Benson for buying a Super Bowl winning team. And to Sean Payton for knowing in what general direction to lay down the credit card. tear..
Posted on 2/8/10 at 5:55 pm to TIGRLEE
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Im sorry though,,, you are right...a mans ability to publicly speak is waht determines his ability to coach football.
Im talking about at press conf type shite after a game where he tries to explain what the frick he was doing. Miles sounds like a complter idiot whe he does this, SP doesnt.
Posted on 2/8/10 at 5:56 pm to TIGRLEE
quote:
Im sorry though,,, you are right...a mans ability to publicly speak is waht determines his ability to coach football.
According to this board & Jiminy Ott. Also Headbutting & Chest thumping & general showmanship add to the viewing pleasure of the NU LSU fan.
Posted on 2/8/10 at 5:57 pm to Sammich
quote:
Post ALL the other NCAA Coaches who have an equal or better record at 1 school in 5 years.
Miles 51-14 (1st 5 yrs)
Urban Meyer 57-10 (1st 5 yrs)
Joe Paterno 51-13 (last 5 years)
Larry Coker 53-9 (1st 5 years)
This is just a taste. Two are great coaches, two are impostor coaches.
Posted on 2/8/10 at 5:57 pm to Jones
quote:
Miles sounds like a complter idiot whe he does this, SP doesnt.
So he's not as good an actor as Keanu Reeves? Say it ain't so dude....er..brah.
Posted on 2/8/10 at 5:58 pm to LSUSUPERSTAR
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Average in the NCAA is 8-9 wins each year, that is just a fact of the 12 game schedule.
Saban has coached 14 seasons of NCAA ball. He has won 8 or 9 games in 5 of those seasons, "less than" 8 or 9 games in 5 other seasons, and "more than" 8 or 9 games in the remaining 4 seasons. He is 124-50-1, for an average of 8.85-3.57. He has won several conference championships (4), and of course 2 BCS championships (and at 2 different schools).
Miles has a very similar resume. He is 79-36 over 9 seasons. That is an average of 8.78-4. From a pure win/loss ratio, that is statistically insignficant (less than one game shift, by either coach, over the career is the tipover). Certainly Miles has not won 4 conference championships, but Saban has coached 5 more years than Miles, and 3 of his championships have come in the last 5 years of his career, likewise for his second BCS championship.
You Miles "Haters" are free to dislike Miles for his hat, for making the occasional dumb decision during a game, kicking a player off the team would have all but guaranteed 2 to 3 more wins over the past 2 seasons.
But DON'T pretend that there is some objective evidence that stands for the proposition that Saban (or Meyer for that matter) is a "significantly better" coach than Miles.
There isn't.
Posted on 2/8/10 at 6:01 pm to LSUSUPERSTAR
quote:
Miles 51-14 (1st 5 yrs)
Urban Meyer 57-10 (1st 5 yrs)
Joe Paterno 51-13 (last 5 years)
Larry Coker 53-9 (1st 5 years)
This is just a taste. Two are great coaches, two are impostor coaches.
Which ones are active Coaches? Just a taste? bullshite..If it's so easy, just name 10 active coaches. Imposter Coach? Scooby & Shaggy will get right on it! "If it wasn't for those meddling kids!"
Posted on 2/8/10 at 6:05 pm to Ace Midnight
Miles first 3 seasons: 34-6
last 2 season: 17-9
It is clear what the difference is between the two. Players.
last 2 season: 17-9
It is clear what the difference is between the two. Players.
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