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LSU's average class ranking vs the schedule
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:38 am
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:38 am
I made this for another forum I am a member of, but I wanted to share it here.
It is kind of amazing what the perception of the head coach does to "experts" outlook on our season.
Used 247 team rankings.
Average class ranking 2015 - 2018
LSU - 7.25
Schedule:
Miami - 17.25
SE LA - NA
Auburn - 9.5
La Tech - NA
Ole Miss - 20.75
Florida - 14.5
UGA - 4
MSU - 24.25
Bama - 2
Ark - 30
Rice - NA
A&M Faggies - 14.75
It is kind of amazing what the perception of the head coach does to "experts" outlook on our season.
Used 247 team rankings.
Average class ranking 2015 - 2018
LSU - 7.25
Schedule:
Miami - 17.25
SE LA - NA
Auburn - 9.5
La Tech - NA
Ole Miss - 20.75
Florida - 14.5
UGA - 4
MSU - 24.25
Bama - 2
Ark - 30
Rice - NA
A&M Faggies - 14.75
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Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:41 am to JayDeerTay84
Remove the players that leave after their junior year
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:42 am to JayDeerTay84
They do a roster talent comparison using individual player ratings too. Helps incorporate attrition, etc.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:42 am to JayDeerTay84
quote:
It is kind of amazing what the perception of the head coach does to "experts" outlook on our season.
A lot more goes into it than who the coach is.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:43 am to JayDeerTay84
So you’re saying we have the talent to win 10 games but we’re only expected to win 7 because of who the head coach is?
I agree
I agree
This post was edited on 8/12/18 at 9:48 am
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:44 am to VermilionTiger
quote:
Remove the players that leave after their junior year
What teams out talent us that you dont agree with?
Outside of Bama and UGA, which is obvious, AU??
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:47 am to Jack Daniel
quote:
So you’re saying we have the talent to win 10 games but we’re only expected to win 7 because of who the head coach is?
I believe we have the talent to win 10 for sure. I would say we have the talent to win all games, but I clearly dont think it likely based on not knowing what our QB play will look like yet.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:47 am to JayDeerTay84
The class ranking argument is kind of vague because we have players like Foster Moreau who outplay their class rankings
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:48 am to Jack Daniel
quote:
So you’re saying we have the talent to win 10 games but we’re only expected to win 7 because of who the head coach is?
This is clear.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:48 am to JayDeerTay84
For YEARS, the narrative has been “LSU is a quarterback away”. Yes the schedule is tough, but this shows that our talent is better than everyone on our schedule, and not too far behind UA and UGA. I just don’t believe that there is a drastic difference from #1 to #7 annually in recruiting.
If Burrow turns out to be on par with year 2 Mettenberger, I don’t buy the “train of excuses” coming from the BR media and Orgeron.
It’s far past time for LSU to run a balanced offense that can beat you through the air or on the ground. If that is the case, then CEH, Brosette, and Curry should be a more than capable RB rotation to complement a solid attack through the air.
Stop the damn excuses and WIN! Rant over...
If Burrow turns out to be on par with year 2 Mettenberger, I don’t buy the “train of excuses” coming from the BR media and Orgeron.
It’s far past time for LSU to run a balanced offense that can beat you through the air or on the ground. If that is the case, then CEH, Brosette, and Curry should be a more than capable RB rotation to complement a solid attack through the air.
Stop the damn excuses and WIN! Rant over...
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:52 am to Lsualum2017
quote:
The class ranking argument is kind of vague because we have players like Foster Moreau who outplay their class rankings
Its not perfect and other teams have good 3*'s etc that have steeped up, but it does give us a base to judge things.
While we have missed on high rated players, generally, LSU out-talents most teams and that is the case this year IMO.
That in no way means we win those games. Plenty of teams have beat us over the years with low recruiting rankings.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 10:03 am to JayDeerTay84
None of that matters.you can have 1 great class of skill players and 3 that are ranked in the 40’s of that are heavy trench guys and dominate to championship level.
As long as the linemen are before that class. Those positions take time to mature for the most part.
Or you can have a class of top talent at all positions with all 25 schollies and win their freshmen year with a good coach. We have seen freshmen QBs win championships.
It is all about filling needs.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 10:06 am to JayDeerTay84
quote:
LSU's average class ranking vs the schedule
Head Coach
LSU - 82
Posted on 8/12/18 at 10:13 am to JayDeerTay84
this is also from 24/7:
Shea Dixon
Verified account @Sheadixon
24/7's Shea Dixon on LSU's 2014-2016 classes
Shea Dixon
Verified account @Sheadixon
quote:
Shea Dixon Retweeted Shea Dixon
In this story, numbers on each recruiting class. One that stings? The 2015 class, where 39% of the signees have already transferred or been dismissed.
From the 2014-2016 classes, only 32 signees (44%) remain on the team right now.
24/7's Shea Dixon on LSU's 2014-2016 classes
Posted on 8/12/18 at 10:17 am to JayDeerTay84
Overall talent level at LSU hasn’t been the question. Poor QB play, subpar coaching philosophy, and players leaving early have all contributed to fewer wins.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 10:19 am to Tiger Ree
quote:
Shea Dixon Retweeted Shea Dixon
In this story, numbers on each recruiting class. One that stings? The 2015 class, where 39% of the signees have already transferred or been dismissed.
From the 2014-2016 classes, only 32 signees (44%) remain on the team right now.
True to form, here enters Tiger Ree to suggest that CEO's lousy 2018 record will be Les Miles' fault and will need another 2 years.
This post was edited on 8/12/18 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 8/12/18 at 10:20 am to Tiger Ree
OK, so what teams would you move past LSU on talent based on the schedule this year?
Posted on 8/12/18 at 10:23 am to ACADIATIGER
quote:
True to form, here enters Tiger Ree to suggest that CEO's lousy 2018 recording will be Les Miles' fault and will need another 2 years.
True to form another poster on this board makes up shite in his mind and believes it.
I read the first post in this thread and saw the mention of 24/7 and average rankings. I saw the Shea tweet yesterday when searching for something else.
I am not suggesting anything. Take the info for what it is or ignore it, I don't care.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 10:25 am to Tiger Ree
quote:
True to form another poster on this board makes up shite in his mind and believes it.
I read the first post in this thread and saw the mention of 24/7 and average rankings. I saw the Shea tweet yesterday when searching for something else.
I am not suggesting anything. Take the info for what it is or ignore it, I don't care.
Relative to this discussion, you posted facts that seemingly disagree with what I posted. Therefore, who on our schedule "out talent's" us based on the information you linked?
This post was edited on 8/12/18 at 10:25 am
Posted on 8/12/18 at 10:26 am to JayDeerTay84
quote:
It is kind of amazing what the perception of the head coach does to "experts" outlook on our season.
What's your point? Are you saying the "experts" outlook is off base?
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