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re: LSU vs UM 2018 (Making progress)
Posted on 6/29/14 at 4:40 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
Posted on 6/29/14 at 4:40 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
Good thing LSU got that return trip from Washington back in 2012.
That home slate of games really sucked otherwise.
That home slate of games really sucked otherwise.
This post was edited on 6/29/14 at 4:41 pm
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Posted on 6/29/14 at 4:47 pm to Old Money
Also bad for taxpayers when the state school chooses to give the tax revenue income from a major game to a city in Texas. Even if they get a guaranteed payday from a game in Arlington or Houston (we don't get any revenue from tickets, tv or concessions), two neutral site games have a comparable payout to a major OOC home game.
What's bad is that there is a massive amount of local and state tax revenues generated by an LSU home game and we're basically giving that to Texas by playing games there.
What's bad is that there is a massive amount of local and state tax revenues generated by an LSU home game and we're basically giving that to Texas by playing games there.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 4:57 pm to Old Money
eta: who won that fight by the way?
This post was edited on 6/29/14 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 6/29/14 at 5:18 pm to DaRobber
I live out of state and have traveled to both Oregon and TCU in Jerry World. Had a great time but I'm ready to go to South Beach...
Posted on 6/29/14 at 6:05 pm to TheRookbird
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Also bad for taxpayers when the state school chooses to give the tax revenue income from a major game to a city in Texas. Even if they get a guaranteed payday from a game in Arlington or Houston (we don't get any revenue from tickets, tv or concessions), two neutral site games have a comparable payout to a major OOC home game.
I could give a frick about giving tax revenue to the state of Louisiana until they amend the constitution.
LSU athletics are giving $36 million back to the university and do not receive state funding.
This post was edited on 6/29/14 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 6/29/14 at 6:15 pm to tickfawtiger
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By your theory...these neutral site games are great, virtually no downside !
What theory is that? I enjoy playing in neutral site games over a long weekend over sweating my arse off in Baton Rouge against UL Monore? I'm far more upset about the mandatory November bye week every other year when the weather is usually nicer.
Seems more like an opinion. Your constant bitching about it b/c it cuts into your scalping is just an added bonus
This post was edited on 6/29/14 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 6/29/14 at 8:20 pm to TigerBait1127
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I could give a frick about giving tax revenue to the state of Louisiana until they amend the constitution.
LSU athletics are giving $36 million back to the university and do not receive state funding.
LSU athletics would not exist if not for the state sponsored school so it's kind of a moot point that the athletics give back to the university.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 8:55 pm to TigerBait1127
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TigerBait1127
I don't even know why I even bother sometimes
Whatever. They'll still be bitching while we're having a great time in Dallas. just let them bitch and moan
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:16 pm to TheRookbird
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LSU athletics would not exist if not for the state sponsored school so it's kind of a moot point that the athletics give back to the university.
No, it really isn't a moot point.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:22 pm to TigerBait1127
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No, it really isn't a moot point.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:27 pm to TheRookbird
LSU athletics goes above and beyond what should be expected of them. They are the only athletic department in the country that operates financially independently and gives back so much to the university.
The Louisiana government and constitution continuously frick over the university. The athletic department owes them nothing.
Let's also not forget the importance of lsu to the state's economy. The tale wags the dog in this situation. The state holds the university back
So discounting the above by calling it a moot point is a pretty ignorant view point
The Louisiana government and constitution continuously frick over the university. The athletic department owes them nothing.
Let's also not forget the importance of lsu to the state's economy. The tale wags the dog in this situation. The state holds the university back
So discounting the above by calling it a moot point is a pretty ignorant view point
This post was edited on 6/29/14 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 6/30/14 at 3:04 am to tiger perry
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Would really like a game with Michigan as well
Yeah I really want to play Michigan, USC, Ohio State, and Oklahoma. it wouldn't matter if it was a home and home or "neutral" site.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 3:06 am
Posted on 6/30/14 at 5:47 am to Old Money
Posted on 6/30/14 at 6:38 am to TexasTiger89
For those who live in Dallas, Houston, and Atlanta...would you be willing to attend a "neutral" game in your city (and pay the same ticket prices) if the opponent were San Houston State, Louisiana-Monroe, or New Mexico State?
Be honest.
Now consider paying for three of these each year while watching Oregon, TCU, North Carolina, Wisconsin, etc. play hundreds of mile away.
I believe everyone here understands the exposure LSU receives by playing a neutral site game. What's aggravating is those who support LSU the most through revenue & attendance are the same group who is being taken for granted.
Maybe the OOC home games should be $20/ticket and the games in Dallas, Houston, etc. could be $500/ticket. Then those who say the season ticket holders complain too much can share in the burden.
Be honest.
Now consider paying for three of these each year while watching Oregon, TCU, North Carolina, Wisconsin, etc. play hundreds of mile away.
I believe everyone here understands the exposure LSU receives by playing a neutral site game. What's aggravating is those who support LSU the most through revenue & attendance are the same group who is being taken for granted.
Maybe the OOC home games should be $20/ticket and the games in Dallas, Houston, etc. could be $500/ticket. Then those who say the season ticket holders complain too much can share in the burden.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 6:56 am to Earn Your Keep
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For those who live in Dallas, Houston, and Atlanta...would you be willing to attend a "neutral" game in your city (and pay the same ticket prices) if the opponent were San Houston State, Louisiana-Monroe, or New Mexico State?
I have season tickets. What makes you think those programs are willing to do a home/away when they can get more money and exposure through a single game?
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Now consider paying for three of these each year while watching Oregon, TCU, North Carolina, Wisconsin, etc. play hundreds of mile away.
What is preventing you from attending the game? Would you rather trade off Wisconsin, Oregon, TCU, UNC for ULM?
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What's aggravating is those who support LSU the most through revenue & attendance are the same group who is being taken for granted.
Almost every season ticket holder I know of is attending the game and is pretty excited about it
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Maybe the OOC home games should be $20/ticket and the games in Dallas, Houston, etc. could be $500/ticket. Then those who say the season ticket holders complain too much can share in the burden.
Maybe LSU should raise their ticket prices even higher to compete with the top of the SEC
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 6:57 am
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:28 am to TigerBait1127
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LSU athletics goes above and beyond what should be expected of them. They are the only athletic department in the country that operates financially independently and gives back so much to the university.
This is untrue. Texas AD gives more back to the university and takes no public funds. Also, there are a few schools who take money from the University for accounting purposes only.
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The Louisiana government and constitution continuously frick over the university. The athletic department owes them nothing.
Except their entire existence. LSU's athletic department employees are public employees. Les Miles salary has to be reported because he, again, is a public employee. The LSU chancellor, another public official and the head of the university is the boss of everyone in the athletic department.
I will state this again: without the state sponsored university, LSU athletics would not exist.
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Let's also not forget the importance of lsu to the state's economy.
Thanks for repeating my exact point. The AD itself trumpets who much of an effect LSU athletics has on the state and local economies. Which is precisely why we shouldn't play a neutral site game every year outside of the state.
Disagree with my points all you want, but they are extremely valid and the fact that the AD gives back to the University changes none of them. Also, the fact that our state is run by idiot lawmakers are constantly cutting the budgets of higher ed in this state does not somehow remove the athletic department from it's responsibility to the state.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 9:39 am
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:43 am to TheRookbird
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This is untrue and saying that we're the only AD that operates financially independently of the university is arguing semantics. There's a decent number of schools who take money from the University for accounting purposes only.
I never said that LSU was the only AD that operates financially independent of the university. That AND means something.
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LSU's athletic department employees are public officials. Les Miles salary has to be reported because he, again, is a public official.
Good to know that he's coaching for such a bargain at $300,000.
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I will state this again: without the state sponsored university, LSU athletics would not exist.
And that does not make LSU athletics a slave to the state. The AD has gone above and beyond the call of duty.
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Disagree with my points all you want, but they are extremely valid and the fact that the AD gives back to the University changes none of them. Also, the fact that our state is run by idiot lawmakers are constantly cutting the budgets of higher ed in this state does not somehow remove the athletic department from it's responsibility to the state.
I have no problem with your points. Disregarding the accomplishments as a moot point is absolutely ridiculous.
The AD obviously sees the neutral site games as beneficial, possibly bringing in students from out of state.
Giving $36 million back is goes well beyond that responsibility. If the state supported the university, maybe we could afford to pay a good program to come here.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 9:55 am
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:58 am to TigerBait1127
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I never said that LSU was the only AD that operates financially independent of the university. That AND means something.
Yeah, I knew what you meant and clarified my point before you posted.
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Good to know that he's coaching for such a bargain at $300,000.
Still public employees.
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And that does not make LSU athletics a slave to the state. The AD has gone above and beyond the call of duty.
By not taking money from the school that it doesn't need? I guess we have a different definition of "above and beyond the call of duty."
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Disregarding the accomplishments as a moot point is absolutely ridiculous.
Clearly we just disagree.
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Giving $36 million back is goes well beyond that responsibility.
No it doesn't. The responsibility of the athletic department is definitely to the student athletes and the university and then, since they're public employees of the flagship state school, to the state.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 10:02 am
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:06 am to TheRookbird
I look at it as an opener on the road against a quality opponent OR a home opener against St. Mary's Sister of the poor.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:10 am to barry
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I look at it as an opener on the road against a quality opponent OR a home opener against St. Mary's Sister of the poor.
This has been my view on it the entire time. Hell, for the Syracuse series, we're having to travel there 1st.
Alabama's doing the same thing and they charge far more than we do for season tickets. UF's fees are much higher too, and they do a neutral site game in Jacksonville every year.
I don't disagree with wanting a better home schedule, but I think CFB has passed that up.
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