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re: LSU Softball Season Review
Posted on 6/14/16 at 12:39 pm to Tigerbait357
Posted on 6/14/16 at 12:39 pm to Tigerbait357
Good stuff. Thanks 
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 3:26 pm to Tigerbait357
I enjoyed this season to the max. With S. Jaquish leading this ballclub next year and the great coaching staff we have to guide the pitching staff, we will be in that number.
Great report.
Great report.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 2:18 pm to NOLATiger4321
I have followed LSU softball for a very long time and I don't agree with you with how this program is shaping up.
Beth is below average coaching, her teams are inconsistent messes. She is relying on the last coaches players to win.
If you look at her future classes, there is zero good talent coming in. There is no one elite for 2017, 2018 or 2019.
Its pretty clear this program is going down a very bad path. We might need to look for a new coach by the end of next season. Beth simply isn't getting it done.
Jaquish and Corbello have black mailed many of the players on this team, thats why no one likes them. Torina was right to get rid of Corbello. Jaquish is a solid player but definitely not a difference maker. Beth made a huge mistake letting Bourg go. She is better then most the other players. All of these departures are because Beth is playing favorites.
I hope LSU makes the right decision and makes changes soon. We can't afford for this program to fall any further. Its going to take longer to get better players.
Also, I am really suprised Beth hasn't fired Dobson by now. He isn't a very good hitting coach. His batters have always been undisciplined and lost at the plate.
Who knows what the hell Leftwitch does, she works with the defense?
Beth is below average coaching, her teams are inconsistent messes. She is relying on the last coaches players to win.
If you look at her future classes, there is zero good talent coming in. There is no one elite for 2017, 2018 or 2019.
Its pretty clear this program is going down a very bad path. We might need to look for a new coach by the end of next season. Beth simply isn't getting it done.
Jaquish and Corbello have black mailed many of the players on this team, thats why no one likes them. Torina was right to get rid of Corbello. Jaquish is a solid player but definitely not a difference maker. Beth made a huge mistake letting Bourg go. She is better then most the other players. All of these departures are because Beth is playing favorites.
I hope LSU makes the right decision and makes changes soon. We can't afford for this program to fall any further. Its going to take longer to get better players.
Also, I am really suprised Beth hasn't fired Dobson by now. He isn't a very good hitting coach. His batters have always been undisciplined and lost at the plate.
Who knows what the hell Leftwitch does, she works with the defense?
This post was edited on 6/15/16 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 6/15/16 at 3:20 pm to Gator468
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Gator468
2 posts, just joined yesterday
Only shows one of the 2 posts, so other must have been deleted.
This post was edited on 6/15/16 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 6/15/16 at 3:38 pm to Gator468
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Gator468
Complete troll post. LSU has passed Alabama and Tennessee's programs since Beth has been the coach.
You don't go to back-to-back WCWS by being a below average coach.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 3:39 pm to Gator468
educote that you?
This post was edited on 6/15/16 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 6/15/16 at 3:42 pm to bayoucat0612
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edoucte that you?
Damn. I had a post deleted for a similar accusation. Weird.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 3:50 pm to Gator468
hmmmm,i will not say what i want to say because i will get banned so i'll just leave it alone.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 3:56 pm to lsuman25
Moderators are doing the best they can to keep everything civil. Appreciate their help.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 4:06 pm to lsusportsman2
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Talk about a complete fricking negative loser you are.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 4:09 pm to Gator468
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I have followed LSU softball for a very long time
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there is zero good talent coming in.
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Its pretty clear this program is going down a very bad path. We might need to look for a new coach by the end of next season. Beth simply isn't getting it done.
Posted on 6/15/16 at 10:29 pm to Gator468
I have followed LSU softball for a very long time and I don't agree with you with how this program is shaping up.
Beth is below average coaching, her teams are inconsistent messes. She is relying on the last coaches players to win.
No, her players are here. Her teams are inconsistent, but she's been to more WCWS than the previous coach, in what 5 years vs 15 or so?
If you look at her future classes, there is zero good talent coming in. There is no one elite for 2017, 2018 or 2019.
It's hard to determine which players are truly elite 3 or 4 years out. Give it a rest
Its pretty clear this program is going down a very bad path. We might need to look for a new coach by the end of next season. Beth simply isn't getting it done.
Will not happen without some major scandal. See WCWS appearances
Jaquish and Corbello have black mailed many of the players on this team, thats why no one likes them. Torina was right to get rid of Corbello. Jaquish is a solid player but definitely not a difference maker. Beth made a huge mistake letting Bourg go. She is better then most the other players. All of these departures are because Beth is playing favorites.
I've heard from a few parents that Jaquish isn't very much "liked" but tolerated because she's a phenomenal player. You're a fool to say otherwise. Bourg was a very solid player. I'd say top 1/2 on the last roster really. You're correct, favorites have been played due to transfer threats and outside relationships. Beth didn't get rid of Corbello. She told her she could leave, Corbello decided to leave. It should have happened last year honestly.
I hope LSU makes the right decision and makes changes soon. We can't afford for this program to fall any further. Its going to take longer to get better players.
2 top 3 finishes at the WCWS. 3 appearances in 5 years. "fall any further"? The program has never, ever been higher. If you're going to complain, at least make a solid case.
Also, I am really suprised Beth hasn't fired Dobson by now. He isn't a very good hitting coach. His batters have always been undisciplined and lost at the plate.
LSU has improved in hitting each year he's been on staff. I have not checked this year vs last though. There was very big slump, team wise. But I posted earlier that other things were at play. Also, the top half of the schedule was brutal. The very lax second half helped the team tremendously.
Who knows what the hell Leftwitch does, she works with the defense?
It is my understanding she does a bit of everything. Email, or show up and ask her.
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:13 am to SBTigerFan
I thought that the team did very well considering how most of the starters slumped at the plate. If I were the coach I'd be proud of the fact that the team had gone to CWS again, and had actually won games there, not getting put out 0-2. Nothing to be ashamed of for the season, and a lot to be proud of.
Instead of starting a whole new thread I just wanted to post my thoughts here.
First, I believe that we have just seen a great group of seniors, probably the best we will see for the next few years. Simmons, especially, turned out to be a stellar first baseman, and she has always had a great eye for the ball. Just really impressive to me.
Bell had her problems on defense, but its the position that she plays, gets the most balls hit to her, and hit the hardest. She hit very well, especially toward the end of the season as she came back from the slump she had gone into. Kloss fell off hitting-wise, but she was always a threat, the opposing pitchers had to be careful what they threw to her, and we are going to miss her for sure. I really thought we'd see Kraemer hitting in the lineup, but Beth is with these girls every practice and maybe she saw something to gave her pause. Kraemer is a great player. Was good, also, to have Falcon on the roster as someone who could play infield and outfield with big game experience.
As for the rest, like just about everyone else, I was concerned about the strike out count for Landry this year. I know people hate to see a batter get up and swing at the first pitch, but the one's that never swing at the first pitch, and are good like Landry, are going to start off 0-1. The opposing pitcher is going to throw Landry and Jaquish a strike on the first pitch. Landry would start of 0-1, foul off a couple trying to slap, and then end up either getting called on a strike that is outside the zone, or swinging and missing. I think she needs to get rid of the idea of waiting till she gets a strike on her before she is going to swing. Everyone knows this girl could be an All-American next year, first team..she has it all, maybe it will happen her senior year.
Jaquish is the opposite of Landry, in some ways. She has a great eye for the ball, too, and she is a smart batter.. but she either takes the first strike (most of the time) and ends up in a swing of desperation. .. or she will swing at the first pitch and end up grounding into a double play or popping up. A good hitter can hit pitches in the zone and slightly outside of it, but just because you can hit a certain pitch dont mean you its the one you want to go after.
Thornhill is a pretty good player. I dont know how fast she is but she doesn't make mistakes in the outfield, and she gets timely hits. She drops her shoulder, a lot like UT's Aucoin does and goes into her swing with too much weight on the back leg. I'd be surprised if she didn't start this coming year. Think she is going to turn out to be a great player.
Amber Serret had a great year at shortstop, very impressive. I am sure she could start for just about every team in the country. Her struggle is at the plate, and she often stands too close ato the plate and ends up jamming herself, hence all the ground balls and infield pop ups.
Griggs will probably start this year, and I hope that she can continue to play defense as well as she has. She will probably move to left field, and if that happens, Thornhill might end up on the bench. Griggs has a pretty good arm, and she is fast...her defensive play is not a concern. Her struggle, like many of the other players, is at the plate. She has a great swing that leave the bat flat in the strike zone and I just wish she'd get planted and hit the ball rather than trying to chop the ball. If I wanted to hit a ground ball, I'd swing at the top half of the ball instead of chopping as Griggs does. She got some timely hits for us, and I'd be disappointed if she didn't get put out in the field to start the season off, and given a chance to show how good she is on both sides.
Quinn, as Beth says, is the heart and soul of the team, the emotional leader. Everyone likes the girl, and she has a great, positive attitude. I am like a lot of the others who thought we'd see Bourg and Sanchez get more time, but Quinn made some great plays and had some clutch hits.
A lot of people, especially Beth's critics, are going to be watching to see how willing Beth is to pull Quinn, Griggs, Landry, et al, in the event that they start struggling. Its a marker they are going to use to show that Beth is another case of Jim Haslett/Aaron Brooks, where the coach refuses to pull a player that should be pulled.
I admit, I don't know enough about Howard and his abilities, but it grieved me watching some of the things the LSU hitters did this year. Truth is, though, maybe it was the player, and not the coach. For those who say things have gotten better since 2012, yes, and thats because we have better hitters, and possibly not just a different batting coach.
Beth ain't going anywhere, and if she did, LSU would spend years trying to find someone as good as she is. She recruits well, she knows pitching, she knows softball....she ain't the team's problem. No coach is perfect, and I agree this coming year will be a test, but I think LSU is going back to CWS this coming year, and not just to participate, but to challenge for the championship.
Instead of starting a whole new thread I just wanted to post my thoughts here.
First, I believe that we have just seen a great group of seniors, probably the best we will see for the next few years. Simmons, especially, turned out to be a stellar first baseman, and she has always had a great eye for the ball. Just really impressive to me.
Bell had her problems on defense, but its the position that she plays, gets the most balls hit to her, and hit the hardest. She hit very well, especially toward the end of the season as she came back from the slump she had gone into. Kloss fell off hitting-wise, but she was always a threat, the opposing pitchers had to be careful what they threw to her, and we are going to miss her for sure. I really thought we'd see Kraemer hitting in the lineup, but Beth is with these girls every practice and maybe she saw something to gave her pause. Kraemer is a great player. Was good, also, to have Falcon on the roster as someone who could play infield and outfield with big game experience.
As for the rest, like just about everyone else, I was concerned about the strike out count for Landry this year. I know people hate to see a batter get up and swing at the first pitch, but the one's that never swing at the first pitch, and are good like Landry, are going to start off 0-1. The opposing pitcher is going to throw Landry and Jaquish a strike on the first pitch. Landry would start of 0-1, foul off a couple trying to slap, and then end up either getting called on a strike that is outside the zone, or swinging and missing. I think she needs to get rid of the idea of waiting till she gets a strike on her before she is going to swing. Everyone knows this girl could be an All-American next year, first team..she has it all, maybe it will happen her senior year.
Jaquish is the opposite of Landry, in some ways. She has a great eye for the ball, too, and she is a smart batter.. but she either takes the first strike (most of the time) and ends up in a swing of desperation. .. or she will swing at the first pitch and end up grounding into a double play or popping up. A good hitter can hit pitches in the zone and slightly outside of it, but just because you can hit a certain pitch dont mean you its the one you want to go after.
Thornhill is a pretty good player. I dont know how fast she is but she doesn't make mistakes in the outfield, and she gets timely hits. She drops her shoulder, a lot like UT's Aucoin does and goes into her swing with too much weight on the back leg. I'd be surprised if she didn't start this coming year. Think she is going to turn out to be a great player.
Amber Serret had a great year at shortstop, very impressive. I am sure she could start for just about every team in the country. Her struggle is at the plate, and she often stands too close ato the plate and ends up jamming herself, hence all the ground balls and infield pop ups.
Griggs will probably start this year, and I hope that she can continue to play defense as well as she has. She will probably move to left field, and if that happens, Thornhill might end up on the bench. Griggs has a pretty good arm, and she is fast...her defensive play is not a concern. Her struggle, like many of the other players, is at the plate. She has a great swing that leave the bat flat in the strike zone and I just wish she'd get planted and hit the ball rather than trying to chop the ball. If I wanted to hit a ground ball, I'd swing at the top half of the ball instead of chopping as Griggs does. She got some timely hits for us, and I'd be disappointed if she didn't get put out in the field to start the season off, and given a chance to show how good she is on both sides.
Quinn, as Beth says, is the heart and soul of the team, the emotional leader. Everyone likes the girl, and she has a great, positive attitude. I am like a lot of the others who thought we'd see Bourg and Sanchez get more time, but Quinn made some great plays and had some clutch hits.
A lot of people, especially Beth's critics, are going to be watching to see how willing Beth is to pull Quinn, Griggs, Landry, et al, in the event that they start struggling. Its a marker they are going to use to show that Beth is another case of Jim Haslett/Aaron Brooks, where the coach refuses to pull a player that should be pulled.
I admit, I don't know enough about Howard and his abilities, but it grieved me watching some of the things the LSU hitters did this year. Truth is, though, maybe it was the player, and not the coach. For those who say things have gotten better since 2012, yes, and thats because we have better hitters, and possibly not just a different batting coach.
Beth ain't going anywhere, and if she did, LSU would spend years trying to find someone as good as she is. She recruits well, she knows pitching, she knows softball....she ain't the team's problem. No coach is perfect, and I agree this coming year will be a test, but I think LSU is going back to CWS this coming year, and not just to participate, but to challenge for the championship.
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