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re: LSU RB Jeremy Hill Suspended (Updated 4/30 with Nola.com story)
Posted on 4/30/13 at 11:59 am to bam1131
Posted on 4/30/13 at 11:59 am to bam1131
Ok yes, it is statutory rape by the definition itself. So that means there are thousands of HS relationships that fall into the same category. Should they all be tried and convicted as well?
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Posted on 4/30/13 at 11:59 am to Pesticide
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So high school is the determining factor? So if a 19 yr old was in still in high school it would be ok for him to get a BJ from your daughter.
I doubt I would be happy, but I wouldn't think the 19 yr old is evil.
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If he was in college, that same 19 yr old would be more guilty? I don't see the logic
Did I say anything about guilty, Hill freaking plead guilty to the misdemeanor charge.
Since we are dealing with hypotheticals let's say Jeremy Hill is a couple months younger and 17, would you have a problem with the BJ?
This post was edited on 4/30/13 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:02 pm to Tmacelroy12
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Ok yes, it is statutory rape by the definition itself. So that means there are thousands of HS relationships that fall into the same category. Should they all be tried and convicted as well?
The law is the law. In Louisiana if you are 2 years apart and under 18 then its legal. So in most cases that isn't the issue. And anyone who breaks the law should be tried, yes. If he is innocent then he has his day in court to defend himself. But to say that this wasn't a big deal is completely ignorant.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:03 pm to bam1131
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The law is the law. In Louisiana if you are 2 years apart and under 18 then its legal. So in most cases that isn't the issue. And anyone who breaks the law should be tried, yes. If he is innocent then he has his day in court to defend himself. But to say that this wasn't a big deal is completely ignorant.
He's serving probation for a MISDEMEANOR, in the grand scheme of things it wasn't that big of a deal.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:05 pm to Tmacelroy12
I think if and when you have children you will see this differently. Trust me, JH is one of my favorite players on the roster. Especially since Blue has jello for knees now. But blindly defending someone who is causing trouble is dumb at best. There is no need to protect criminals at LSU. We can recruit more talent with less issues.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:07 pm to bam1131
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The law is the law. In Louisiana if you are 2 years apart and under 18 then its legal. So in most cases that isn't the issue. And anyone who breaks the law should be tried, yes. If he is innocent then he has his day in court to defend himself. But to say that this wasn't a big deal is completely ignorant.
We can argue semantics all day, I sped on my work today, it was only 5 miles over the limit, but I still sped. I didn't come to a complete stop at a stop sign before turning, I didn't come to a complete stop before turning right on red. Yeah, I broke the law, not a big deal.
We select and choose what laws we want to follow and what laws we believe to have greater impacts. I'm not saying that not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign is on the same plane as statutory rape, but it is indicative of our society.
And so you think if a HS senior was dating a sophomore, you would want that senior to be tried? What if that senior was the girl and the sophomore was the boy? Does that change your opinion?
ETA: Is that criminal behavior to have a relationship in HS when the age difference is 2 years apart? Apparently it is in accordance with the law. It would be statutory rape. But in your eyes, in your opinion, is it criminal?
This post was edited on 4/30/13 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:10 pm to bam1131
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I think if and when you have children you will see this differently
I do have children, I'm just not naive enough to believe they will remain children forever.
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But blindly defending someone who is causing trouble is dumb at best. There is no need to protect criminals at LSU.
I'm not blindly defending anyone. You are blindly believing that Hill is a hardened criminal.
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We can recruit more talent with less issues.
You can't recruit anyone. It's not your choice what to do with Hill.
This post was edited on 4/30/13 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:11 pm to Tmacelroy12
And with that asinine statement I will stop trying to put some sense into this conversation.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:12 pm to bam1131
What's so fricking asinine about it?
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:13 pm to EarthwormJim
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I'm not blindly defending anyone. You are blindly believing that Hill is a hardened criminal.
Facts are facts and the fact is Hill has been convicted once and arrested again. So yes, he is a criminal by definition
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:14 pm to bam1131
Fighting at Reggie's and banging 14 year olds. Living the dream, Jeremy.
This post was edited on 4/30/13 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:15 pm to bam1131
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Facts are facts and the fact is Hill has been convicted once and arrested again. So yes, he is a criminal by definition
OF A MISDEMEANOR.
He is a misdemeanant by definition.
Do you know anyone who has been convicted of a misdemeanor?
This post was edited on 4/30/13 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:16 pm to bam1131
Arrested doesn't mean he is convicted. Innocent until proven guilty in this country, unless you can correct me.
And he was charged with a misdemeanor. I had friends in HS get arrested for MIP and PI, they were charged with misdemeanors.
And he was charged with a misdemeanor. I had friends in HS get arrested for MIP and PI, they were charged with misdemeanors.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:20 pm to Tmacelroy12
Ok.. So when the judge is going through this case for a probation violation, do you honestly think he is going to say "oh its no big deal, its just like an MIP" No. Hes going to revoke Hill's suspended plea sentence and his misdemeanor is going right back to a felony. That's how the court system works. His plea in the original case is based off the fact that he does not get in trouble again for the probationary period. Now that he f-ed that up, his felony is coming back.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:22 pm to bam1131
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Hes going to revoke Hill's suspended plea sentence and his misdemeanor is going right back to a felony
No it won't.
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His plea in the original case is based off the fact that he does not get in trouble again for the probationary period. Now that he f-ed that up, his felony is coming back.
You don't know what you are talking about.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:22 pm to bam1131
You never know what's going to happen. That just presumes he's guilty of this and charged. If it's not the probation will probably be stricter.
I'm not an expert in the judicial system, and I know he will take a look at the probation, but that's all based on being guilty of this crime. We don't know that he is or he isn't, gotta wait until all the evidence to come forward.
I'm not an expert in the judicial system, and I know he will take a look at the probation, but that's all based on being guilty of this crime. We don't know that he is or he isn't, gotta wait until all the evidence to come forward.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:22 pm to bam1131
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bam1131
You have gone full retard..
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:24 pm to EarthwormJim
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You don't know what you are talking about.
I actually know exactly what I am talking about. Hill has a suspended sentence he plead down to. He had to keep his nose clean for that 2 year period. He didn't. That is clear violation of probation and it will get revoked. He isn't a first time offender in the court system.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:26 pm to bam1131
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I actually know exactly what I am talking about. Hill has a suspended sentence he plead down to. He had to keep his nose clean for that 2 year period. He didn't. That is clear violation of probation and it will get revoked.
The most that will happen from this case is extended probation. It's just as likely that the charges against Hill will be dropped.
Posted on 4/30/13 at 12:27 pm to bam1131
You are basing this all off if he is guilty, damn dude. The charges in this situation may be dropped, stop trying to act like a fricking genius when you don't even have all the facts on his second incident
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