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re: LSU Left Five Points on the Field

Posted on 9/21/14 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
13040 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 2:19 pm to
State could have named their score. Leaving those 5 on the field is what gave us any shot to win the game on the last play.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60261 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 2:22 pm to
If you're going to go on 4th, it needs to be a run/pass option with a TE in the flat. The play was very limited and Jennings never even considered pitching that ball. He was keeping it from the start.

Also the same play was called on 1st and 3rd. Fournette as decoy, TB playing FB up the middle.
This post was edited on 9/21/14 at 2:23 pm
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7272 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 2:23 pm to
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And going for 2 down 12 is NOT the right call.

Down 12 ... if you make the 2 you're down 10. TD and FG ties it. Kick the extra point you're down 11 and need a TD, 2pt conversion and FG. Maybe I'm missing something, but this seems like the right decision to me.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25945 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164086 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 2:24 pm to
If you don't make it you need 2 TDs. Kicking the extra point is still just a TD+2 and FG.

It's called extending your opportunity to win as long as you can.
This post was edited on 9/21/14 at 2:25 pm
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60261 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 2:24 pm to
You are missing something. If you kick the extra point, it's a FG/TD game. If you don't get it, it's two TD game.
This post was edited on 9/21/14 at 2:27 pm
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25945 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

If you don't make it you need 2 TDs. Kicking the extra point is still just a TD+2 and FG.

It's called extending your opportunity to win as long as you can.


You might just want to quit trying, I don't think the ones in here are really all that understanding of this stuff.
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7272 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

You are missing something. If you kick the extra point, it's a FG/TD game. If you don't get it, as LSU did not, it's two TD game.

Got it.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60261 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 2:28 pm to
Just saying, you have a dual threat QB...use him. Does LSU ever run any run/pass options at the goalline?
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18517 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 2:31 pm to
The two point conversion chart created by Dick Vermeil, and used by most coaches at all levels of football, disagrees, but to each his own...this is just a guideline that doesn't take in to account various other factors.

LINK
This post was edited on 9/21/14 at 2:37 pm
Posted by West Central Tiger
Tiger Country
Member since Feb 2006
1154 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

if we can't score against MSU from the 1 and/or stop MSU from scoring on a 99-yard drive, then it is our offense and defense


Amen. Church is over.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164086 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 2:39 pm to
In that article it says a team followed the chart and went for 2 to tie it at 14 in the 2nd quarter.

That's all I needed to read to know to not take it seriously.
This post was edited on 9/21/14 at 2:40 pm
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18517 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 2:42 pm to


It says you don't ever go for two until the 4th quarter and at that point, you can reference the chart.

Whether you agree or not, that exact chart is used by the majority of coaches in the NFL and College.
This post was edited on 9/21/14 at 2:44 pm
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 9/21/14 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

What was stupid was going for 2 down 12. That one was retarded.
That was the last straw for me. Miles can't coach on gameday, that's a given. But when you can't execute simple math....
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