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re: LSU Arrests vs. SEC: (updated July 2013)
Posted on 5/3/13 at 5:17 pm to LSUfan4444
Posted on 5/3/13 at 5:17 pm to LSUfan4444
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How is that a slight on the image of Les Miles or the university?
I never said it was. I said his discipline problems while under Miles can not be ignored just because he wasn't arrested while playing for LSU. Then commented I don't think Miles treated that situation badly.
Kicking Mathieu off the team is not a discipline problem is is a discipline solution
Posted on 5/3/13 at 5:31 pm to Waffle House
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It's obvious we need to stop recruiting players that have first names that start with the letter "J".
Posted on 5/3/13 at 5:35 pm to TheDoc
Are the numbers as favorable if we go back 5 years? 10?
I have no idea, just curious...
I have no idea, just curious...
Posted on 5/3/13 at 5:42 pm to Rouge
What I think he is trying to say is that the media perception of us is this thug school because our stuff is blasted everywhere as soon as it happens. And he is correct but this is the media's doing. Nobody brings up Maziel's arrest before his heisman season (like they constantly did with JJ all year even 6 games after he returned). Mackey nor Wallace's was blasted all over ESPN, 2 of the 3 starting recievers for Auburn and 1-2 back Mcalleb wasn't all over the airways. Nor starter and first rounder Elam or top returning corner in SEC Purifoy. Not starting QB Hartline for UK or starting 1st round star NFL rookie safety for Bama, Mark Barron. It seems more like they have it out for LSU.
constant Mathieu thing(when he wasn't even on the team in 2012) all year long.
Jeremy Hill for a punch
Alfred Blue for saying sissy
They blow our stuff out of proportion, but these guys are arm robbery criminals, selling drugs. etc.
Manziel was charged with 3 misdemeanors, one being disorderly conduct because he was involved in a fight during the summer before the damn season started. This guy is looked as "oh he's living the college life and partying and etc" Hill goes out "just like Manziel, I know, shocking" and some guy instigates a fight with him and now people are talking suspension because he hit him? Manziel is seen as the rockstar while Hill is seen as the thugPOS. The guy got charged and probation in high school because he got head from a freshman, are you serious? Did yall not see the story a few months back about 20 or so guy from freshman to senior high school guys who got arrested and charged with child porn because a group of high school girls (same age) sent them naked picks? The girls were not initially charged and I still don't know if they will be.
constant Mathieu thing(when he wasn't even on the team in 2012) all year long.
Jeremy Hill for a punch
Alfred Blue for saying sissy
They blow our stuff out of proportion, but these guys are arm robbery criminals, selling drugs. etc.
Manziel was charged with 3 misdemeanors, one being disorderly conduct because he was involved in a fight during the summer before the damn season started. This guy is looked as "oh he's living the college life and partying and etc" Hill goes out "just like Manziel, I know, shocking" and some guy instigates a fight with him and now people are talking suspension because he hit him? Manziel is seen as the rockstar while Hill is seen as the thugPOS. The guy got charged and probation in high school because he got head from a freshman, are you serious? Did yall not see the story a few months back about 20 or so guy from freshman to senior high school guys who got arrested and charged with child porn because a group of high school girls (same age) sent them naked picks? The girls were not initially charged and I still don't know if they will be.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 5:44 pm to LSUfan4444
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(although not an arrest while as a member of the team) a returning heisman trophy finalist
So even though Miles kicked TM7 off the team; which eliminated any and all influence or control CLM or LSU had over him, According to you CLM and LSU are still responsible for the dumb arse decisions this immature kid made? I'm not sure but I think this could be the most intellectually vacant statement I've heard in my life. It's like saying a manager at a business fired a dumb arse employee for stealing and a week later he steals from another business and you blame his original boss.
WTF IS WRONG WITH SOME PEOPLE???
Posted on 5/3/13 at 5:49 pm to LSUfan4444
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I'm not looking at the straight numbers, but rather perception and why it feels different
Nevermind the facts,tell us about your subjective feelings.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 5:51 pm to TheDoc
My fave SEC team has the least and my second-fav SEC teams have the second-least.
I am such a good, moral person!
I am such a good, moral person!
Posted on 5/3/13 at 5:57 pm to LSUfan4444
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To not include the Mathieu drama in a discussion about Miles and his control over the team because he wasn't on the team when he got arrested is just turning a blind eye to something very obvious
Please tell me how in the hell CLM was supposed to control what decisions a 20+ year old man made when he had absolutely ZERO control / influence or ability to affect any part of his life once he made the call to remove him from the football team??? You have either talked yourself into a corner and realize it and refuse to admit you are wrong or you are just plain stupid? Please be honest and let us know which one applies so we will know for future reference.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 6:00 pm to RightWingTiger
Isn't kicking TM7 off the team one method of discipline?
This is why the list does t included tm7
This is why the list does t included tm7
Posted on 5/3/13 at 6:09 pm to TheDoc
I didn't see my favorite group of "scholar" athletes on. Your list...The Flagship Ar-Kansas Swine:
Austin Flynn. 2-13-13
Terrell Williams. 11-4-12
Chris Smith. 10-10-12
Maudrecus Humphrey. 5-12-12
Marquel Wade. 5-12-12
Andrew Peterson. 5-12-12
Tyler Gilbert. 4-17-12
Kane Whitehurst. 4-2-12
Jason Peacock. 3-17-12
Anthony Oden. 7-9-11
Ross Rasner. 4-15-11
I quit looking after 11 volunteers...They're always in the running for the Fulmer Cup!!! Woo Pig Felony!!!
Austin Flynn. 2-13-13
Terrell Williams. 11-4-12
Chris Smith. 10-10-12
Maudrecus Humphrey. 5-12-12
Marquel Wade. 5-12-12
Andrew Peterson. 5-12-12
Tyler Gilbert. 4-17-12
Kane Whitehurst. 4-2-12
Jason Peacock. 3-17-12
Anthony Oden. 7-9-11
Ross Rasner. 4-15-11
I quit looking after 11 volunteers...They're always in the running for the Fulmer Cup!!! Woo Pig Felony!!!
Posted on 5/3/13 at 6:10 pm to TheDoc
So if Arrests aren't a good measuring stick of control...maybe player graduation rates is better for you?
2012 Grad Rates per ESPN:
Vandy 85%
LSU 77%
Bama 75%
Florida 75%
Mizzu 73%
UGA 69%
A&M 69%
UK 65%
Aub 64%
Miss State 60%
Ole Miss 59%
UT 58%
ARK 55%
SC 55%
2012 Grad Rates per ESPN:
Vandy 85%
LSU 77%
Bama 75%
Florida 75%
Mizzu 73%
UGA 69%
A&M 69%
UK 65%
Aub 64%
Miss State 60%
Ole Miss 59%
UT 58%
ARK 55%
SC 55%
Posted on 5/3/13 at 6:13 pm to Navtiger1
DOC that wasn't directed at you...it was for 4444.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 6:17 pm to TheDoc
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Isn't kicking TM7 off the team one method of discipline?
This is why the list does t included tm7
I agree completely but Mr 4444 seems to think not including tm7 is wrong since at one time he played at LSU therefore for the rest of his life any transgressions he commits CLM & LSU are responsible for. And it appears almost everyone else sees how massively flawed his argument is but he refuses to just own up to the absurdity of it?? Since I haven't been able to read every post - maybe there are a couple of other posters that agree with 4444 but I'm not sure how that's possible considering how wrong it happens to be.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 6:20 pm to RightWingTiger
Don't get around these parts much and pardon the question but do you own the record for longest time with the least post?
Posted on 5/3/13 at 6:30 pm to harry coleman beast
Idiot, the principle is the same...Matthieu was a discipline problem on the team. Isn't that the crux of the matter? The issue is disciplinary problems and TM7 had 10 failed drug tests and then was kicked from the team. That definitely shows disciplinary problems.
This post was edited on 5/3/13 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 5/3/13 at 6:45 pm to Lovethutigahs
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That definitely shows disciplinary problems.
ok that's one player
Posted on 5/3/13 at 6:50 pm to TheDoc
Does the number of arrests have any correlation to overall talent for a program?
Posted on 5/3/13 at 6:52 pm to Sheetbend
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Does the number of arrests have any correlation to overall talent for a program?
Some of the most talented players in be country are troubled teenagers.
Goes with the territory I guess
Posted on 5/3/13 at 6:54 pm to bigeztiger
Only one possible conclusion can be drawn..... we are a thugified conference where thugification runs rampant.
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