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re: Loss 100% on players. Not Miles. Not coaches. Not plays. Not fraud clock guy.

Posted on 9/25/16 at 11:18 am to
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 9/25/16 at 11:18 am to
It's time for Les to go. Stop blaming the players, refs, fans, weather, headsets, etc... Les gets paid $4.3m to get the team ready to play. Do you really think they are ready to play every game?
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17696 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 11:25 am to
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except for two minute urgency on the last drive from the players.


If you can't see that this is on the coach, you're either completely clueless or completely trolling. I didn't see any coaches motioning for them to go any faster in the last drive. If that's what they had in mind they didn't communicate it well at all. In fact I saw the players hustling up to the line and then looking at the sideline wondering why in the hell they didn't have a play ready. Were they supposed to just call one themselves? Seems to me the players showed plenty of urgency. The coaches did not.
Posted by loopback
Member since Jul 2011
4860 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 11:26 am to
Has anyone mentioned yet that we NEVER should have even been in a position to have to snatch victory on a last second TD pass? Forget clock mgmt, forget replay officials, and forget the players actions in the last drive. With the talent on this LSU team, there is zero excuse that we should ever have been in that tight of a game. This is coaching. Period. So many other coaches have done much more with much less. Anyone who thinks this, and the mistakes of the last few years, isn't solely on coaching is delusional.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 9/25/16 at 11:31 am to
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 9/25/16 at 11:58 am to
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I didn't see any coaches motioning for them to go any faster in the last drive.


These players have been the studs of their teams for probably 10 years playing this game.

You think they need to be told with 2:30 left in a game that needs a winning TD drive to hurry up?

There's plenty to pin on coaches in a whole lot of areas, but last night's game falls 100% on the players.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 9/25/16 at 11:59 am to
Have yourself a merry little down vote


Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
11813 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:05 pm to
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100% on players
quote:

100% on players


You are fricking either retarded, have a TBI or a relative of Coach Static Headphones

Three moons for yo arse
Posted by cwatsn
Member since Sep 2016
2 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:06 pm to
Watch the play with 1 minute 30 seconds left. Dural catches a pass short of the first down and clearly steps out of bounds...they never stopped the clock.
Thats like 20 seconds we lost. Why didn't anyone catch that?
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:08 pm to
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Coaches should coach that part though. And the play calling in the red zone all game was enough to justify firing everyone on that side of the ball.



Holp schit we agree LNCH!!!!!! yyyeeeeeeeessssssss!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260069 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:09 pm to
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And saying coaches need to get the players to hustle is bullshite. 18 to 22-year-old young man who want to win hustle on their own.


Is this a troll post?
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
84989 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:13 pm to
Because he tried to turn upfield and his momentum was stopped prior to getting out. Clock should not stop. Dural was stupid for not getting out of bounds as soon as he caught it. Or poorly coached. Or like you, he's clueless of the rules.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:15 pm to
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Meauxjeaux


Indian name for Miles' Wife
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23563 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:16 pm to
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These players have been the studs of their teams for probably 10 years playing this game.

being the star of the team has nothing to do with situational football acumen... not to mention different rules for differing levels of football....

know who SHOULD have better situational awareness and knowledge? the HC that is a paid PROFESSIONAL, not the AMATEUR athletes you keep harping about.... did they produce to the full limit of their ability? frick no, but to peg them with 100% of the blame, while shirking responsibility from Miles, Cam, or anyone else that, again, is a paid PROFESSIONAL shows you have either no knowledge of anything football related, or an agenda to push, if not both...

to think, before this thread, you were pretty decently regarded, but falling on your sword for the ineptness from last night has become your coup de gras...
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:20 pm to
Honestly, I thought Etling handled the final set of downs pretty well. LSU picked up a 1st down at the 13 with 54 seconds left and the clock ready to restart. At this point, you have to assume LSU has four plays left, limited by downs, not time.


:54 1st down whistle/clock stopped
This is where most people complained. Clock ran off 20 seconds before the next play. We were lined up around the 45 second mark, but Etling directed Dupre to the other side of the formation. Honestly, though we ran time, it didn't bother me. Etling seemed like he was in control and there was no panic. Besides, he's showing he knows he's limited more by downs than time.

:33 1st down snap
Pass incomplete. Clock stops

:28 2nd down snap
Etling sacked, and immediately calls timeout. The play took four seconds. Now it's 3rd and 17, and LSU should have more than enough time to run two plays, so long as the next play goes to the sideline.

:24 3rd down snap
Dupre catches the ball with :22 on the clock, decides to fight for an extra yard or two instead of going out of bounds. THIS WAS THE KEY MISTAKE. LSU had no timeouts thanks to the sack, but Dupre caught the ball and had the lane to go out of bounds. Instead, he turned upfield for a meaningless yard or two. He was down at :18

:06 4th down snap
Getting the play off in 12 seconds was pretty good by Etling again, who did a good job with the clock and seemed cool under pressure. The receiver ran his route short of the end zone and was down with 1 second left. And we know the rest.

The only player error was by Dupre. Etling, I thought, did well in the final minute and played with no panic. If he had played like that the rest of the game, we wouldn't have needed a late frantic drive.
Posted by tiger25
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2197 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:21 pm to
Man at some point when we keep saying the same things over and over its coaching. The fact that the same things that are constantly giving us problems aren't being fixed then its coaching.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
89778 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:25 pm to
WTF are you doing, seeing how many downvotes you can get. Pretty funny post
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:26 pm to
A ton of people in this thread are mistaking that I think the game was called right, the coaches are awesome, Miles should stay or any number of reaches that I am not saying.

I do think we could have won big, I do think there were coaching screwups, I agree with alot of what everyone thinks needs upgrading in the program.

But for last nights game, it's one of the 2-3 games I have seen in 40 years of watching football where you can definitively show that nothing need be changed AT ALL in anything having to do with "snap to the conclusion of the play".

You can eliminate everything but the mediocre urgency BY THE PLAYERS during the 2 minute drive.

You get that back and the snap is valid and the winning TD pass is valid.
Posted by TigerBaitTx
East TX
Member since Jan 2014
1046 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:26 pm to
Player performance or the lack there of falls directly on the head coach. Period
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6842 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:27 pm to
I would agree with the OP if this is the first time this happened. Players names change, some coahces are different but a lot and certainly the head man is the same. The coaching is faulting this team.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57622 posts
Posted on 9/25/16 at 12:27 pm to
I think you're approaching a record number of downvotes.
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