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Losing is understandable, but making Bama look better than they are is not

Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:47 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70907 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:47 pm
Just gonna put this out here since I see a narrative shift on this board.

Y'all do realize that Alabama is not that damn good, right? LSU fans like to pretend otherwise since LSU never looked like the better team, and certainly never looked like they had a chance to win.

Wisconsin put up more points than LSU.

MTSU had 275 yards in offense.

Ole fricking Miss put up 43. And call it a fluke play all you want, but they at least we're in a position to win at some point. They also had 433 total yards. And won. Ole miss. In Bryant Denny.

QBless TAMU put up more points than LSU for fricks sake. They had a QB change mid season.

Yet,

First downs:
LSU 12
Bama 28

Total plays:
LSU 45
Bama 79

Total yards:
LSU 182
Bama 434

Rushing:
LSU 54
Bama 250

TOP:
LSU 20:33
Bama 39:27

Derrick Henry 210 yards and 3 TDs

LSU has a fine ball team and has the athletes to beat anyone in the country, including Bama.

So again, it's not that LSU lost. But it makes you wonder how they managed to get beaten in such a brutal fashion when clearly teams with less talent have played Bama well, and even beaten them.

Surely y'all don't really believe execution is the overall problem.


Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18500 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:55 pm to
It was execution before the half and right after with the INT
Posted by natethegreat
Member since Dec 2008
740 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 12:02 am to
It's been 5 games in a row. 5 losses in a row.

Players come and go, but guess who has consistently been there for the past 5 losses in a row?

It doesn't matter if LSU did look like the better team. It doesn't matter if we looked like we had a chance to win. Because we do not close. We have not closed for the past 5 games. And the recipe is always the same.

Honestly, I'm tired of it.






This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 12:03 am
Posted by TFan
Seattle, WA
Member since Nov 2007
398 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 12:48 am to
We ALWAYS attack Bama's strength, not their weakness. Les Miles doesn't study film, he watches film.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76305 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 12:55 am to

Do you think LSU lost right before the half and right after with the INT? I haven't heard your opinion on that yet and it's relevant to every thread.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38378 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 12:56 am to
Nobody in the country brings their A game every week. Bama has brought it twice, arguably 3 times this year, it's not a coincidence that those games came against what were perceived to be at the time a very tough and formidable opponent (Georgia, A&M, LSU) These are college kids after all, it's hard to expect their very best performance every week, that's just human nature. I don't think anyway would expect for lsu to play with the same intensity against eastern Michigan for four quarters as they would against a formidable sec opponent. That's human nature

Those teams were ranked in the top 10 and they got our best shot because of it. What happened at the line of scrimmage though, there's no other explanation for that than one group was flat out better. There isn't a scheme for blowing a guy off the line, that's just a man vs another man. Strength and will are the only things at play there, not a scheme

Y'all got our best shot. I don't expect it to be replicated again in the regular season. I think a lot of it had to do with how much they heard about Fournette, and they were visibly and vocally sick of it. They were challenged for two weeks and came out and played with something to prove. The state game will probably be a dog fight. Doesn't mean they're better than lsu, doesn't mean Bama isn't really a good team. Saturday is what Alabama is capable of, doesn't mean they're going to play like it every week
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 1:03 am
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76305 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 12:57 am to
The LSU scheme fricking sucks. It sucks every year. It just does, and it's adequate to win most games but not Bama.
Posted by Zchlsu
Twin Peaks, Washington
Member since Jan 2011
6029 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 2:07 am to
Damn son you post on this board more than I do.
Posted by OilMan25
Youngsville, LA
Member since Nov 2013
354 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 4:57 am to
quote:

It was execution before the half and right after with the INT


We are not the only team to throw an interception. Ole miss I believe threw two of them and still scored 43. We can't continue to call the bama game not to lose. This is a bad offensive strategy. Although I am a miles supporter we need a better offensive scheme period. I mean how long does it take to get a freakin play called. This seems to be a recurring theme with us
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21567 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 5:21 am to
I agree, but everybody with any brains knew Bama was going to be that way. Les just has no idea how to take advantage of it. He likes to talk about want and chest and all this karma bullshite. Saban insists that players do what they have to do mentally and physically to do their job one play at a time and he harps on it over and over and over until it sinks in.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41595 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 6:12 am to
We now get to watch Bama get slaughtered in the first game of the playoffs, though. It will be beautiful.
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Do you think LSU lost right before the half and right after with the INT?
Don't know if this is meant to be sarcasmic, but these were definite turns of momentum that contributed to the loss. After LSU tied the ball game, they gave Bama an unnecessary advantage by kicking the ball out of bounds. An ongoing area of concern that should have been, but has not been corrected. Holding Bama even at 10 would have been huge for the Tigers. The interception cemented the fact that LF would have to continue to run into Bama's solid line for most of the rest of the game.

Without these two mistakes the team would have stayed up, the defense would have had more rest, and things could have turned out a lot differently.

Our team is still good and will bring it the rest of the season. I've been bashed on here for stating the obvious about our coaching lately, so I'll just say
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:12 am to
quote:

Total yards: LSU 182 Bama 434


pathetic

quote:

Rushing: LSU 54 Bama 250


more pathetic

Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:32 am to
the best analogy I can think of is like two heavyweight boxers. If your opponent is a big, strong puncher, do you stand toe-to-toe in the middle of the ring and trade punches, knowing it's his strength?

Or do you jab and move and don't give the puncher a chance to hit you with his power. Pile up points another way while not giving your opponent a chance to knock you out.

Identify your opponents strengths and weaknesses, and adapt your gameplan to negate the strengths and exploit the weaknesses.

This isn't rocket science folks. Every coach in the world does this. Well, one coach doesn't.

Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26640 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:43 am to
I said this early. LSU was not in that game mentally. No way in hell Bama was THAT good. It's like the OL bought into the notion that people said that they'd get run out the stadium. That then put us at a disadvantage on defense. We do not have the depth on the front 7 to defend a power run game that runs a middle linebacker with 4.5 speed at RB and then his 4.4 speed backup as changup for 50 carries.

Bama also played like men possessed that night.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 10:45 am
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
83933 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:48 am to
quote:

Y'all do realize that Alabama is not that damn good, right? LSU fans like to pretend otherwise since LSU never looked like the better team, and certainly never looked like they had a chance to win.



Thank you. People are acting like this was the best Alabama team since 2011.

They lost their entire offense this offseason. Let that sink in. We use that shite as an excuse every chance we get.

quote:

Ole fricking Miss put up 43. And call it a fluke play all you want, but they at least we're in a position to win at some point. They also had 433 total yards. And won. Ole miss. In Bryant Denny.



It's just how you play the game. You have 11 players. They can only occupy so much space. You look at what the defense is giving you and you try to find the spaces where you know they will have trouble covering. IT CAN BE DONE. It's not like Nick Saban has created an infallible defense.

We could have beaten this team. Miles just didn't put the work in to do it. I think he honestly thought he had the most unstoppable running offense ever and that THIS time things were going to be different.

Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70907 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:54 am to
The fact that there seemingly were not adjustments made at halftime is hard for me to grasp. The heavy weight boxer analogy above is perfect. One would think when your OL is being physically dominated so badly that your TOP is virtually non existent, a coach would try to think of other ways to get 10 yards at a time. Iirc LSU didn't have more than 1 first down in the first quarter. That's absurd and Bama may be good, but LSU was clearly out coached.

I get that their guys were sick of hearing about Fournette. I get that they were out to prove something. I get that LSU lost. What I don't get is how this team couldn't find a single way to move the ball, without even trying other options. Everyone knows what the definition of insanity is nowadays.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:55 am to
quote:

I get that their guys were sick of hearing about Fournette. I get that they were out to prove something. I get that LSU lost. What I don't get is how this team couldn't find a single way to move the ball, without even trying other options. Everyone knows what the definition of insanity is nowadays.



If anyone had anything to prove, it was us. I mean, we had lost 4 in a row going into that night. If that's not motivation, I don't know what the frick is.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52147 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:59 am to
This game was awful on so many levels:

1) We were embarrassed by Alabama, our despised SEC division foe, led by our former coach

2) LF looked like a kid amongst men out there. His Heisman chances were severely tarnished

3) Henry had a monster game and is now the heisman favorite
Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
3008 posts
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:01 am to
quote:

Riseupfromtherubble


Please can the patronizing BS. We all know that most Alabama fans hope to see Miles stay another 10-20 years and run the LSU program into the ground (ala Mack Brown at Texas) so that Saban can come in and cherry-pick the best talent in Louisiana.

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