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Letting the air out of the ball too early

Posted on 2/28/16 at 11:04 am
Posted by lammo
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Member since Aug 2005
9358 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 11:04 am
Looked like Miles II last night, trying to burn clock with a quarter of the game or more to go. Doesn't work in FB or BB. Watch that lead shrink, shifts mo to opponent, and gets your offense out of sync. Playing not to lose gives the opponent a great chance to win.

As far as the rules go, the foul and foul approach was discussed when the 3 pt line was being debated; this approach was why so many opposed the 3 pt line. It's chickenshit strategy, but it can work.

I say deal with it. Make your free throws and play stout defense without fouling. I wish JJ would do it when necessary, but he never tries it.
This post was edited on 2/28/16 at 11:14 am
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23076 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 11:12 am to
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I say deal with. Make free throws and play stout defense without fouling. I wish JJ would do it, but he never tries it.



I swear you'd think we lost the game last night. Did we not make enough free throws down the stretch to win? Yes it got close and stressful but the point is to win the game. I'm happy with the result.
Posted by T1gerWonder
Member since May 2011
4450 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 11:15 am to
Well we cannot play against the zone with Darcy in, they don't even bother guarding him
Posted by lammo
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Member since Aug 2005
9358 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 11:26 am to
Darcy made quite a few 3s his freshman year, hasn't done it since.

Still, I say keep attacking, keep doing what you were doing to get that 14 point lead in the first place. True in FB or BB.
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
16835 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 11:27 am to
All year long with a big lead LSU has tried to take the air out the ball with around 11 minutes to go and all year it's been close in the end.
Posted by jr33
Member since Jan 2010
1229 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 11:33 am to
I almost feel sorry for JJ in the last few minutes of each game. That coach from Florida was coaching his arse off the last two minutes, subbing offense for defense while our guy was begging the clock to keep moving. He almost pulled it off like Georgia did. Amazing how JJ seems to spectate in the last couple of minutes. He never subbed the last minute last night until Malone fouled out and he looked like he had no idea who to put in.
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
14930 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 11:38 am to
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He almost pulled it off like Georgia did


Yet both got L's...I guess almost counts?

And Johnny was making offense/defense substitutions. We are just very limited in what we can do. We have no good FT shooters and no competent big men after Victor gets in foul trouble. He kept having Gray go to the scorer's table, then White would sub in their big men, so he rolled with his lineup.

You don't always have to sub just to do it. We are incredibly thin with Epps being sick, elbert not being good. Gray/Bridge/Darcy cannot shoot FT's very well at all
This post was edited on 2/28/16 at 11:40 am
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43136 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 11:41 am to
Last couple seasons we'd blow that lead - at least we hang on now for the W.
Posted by jr33
Member since Jan 2010
1229 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 11:45 am to
I love LSU basketball but watching JJ is hard to watch. No doubt we have to make free throw. I just thought we should have Gray in there instead of Malone at the end last night offense/defense. The fact this LSU team is a bubble team with all this talent is a shame.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28405 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 12:14 pm to
This isn't about DeflateGate??? Move long...
Posted by LSU Delts
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
2548 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 1:01 pm to
Amen. Too damn early in the season.
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 1:56 pm to
I disagree with the strategy JJ used to burn the clock last night. With 10 seconds left on the shot clock LSU tried to work the ball around for an open shot. Florida only had to defend for 10 seconds. LSU was unable to get a good shot within 10 seconds. As the shot clock ran down LSU would have to force a shot that was not there.
JJ single handedly shut down the LSU offense by his own strategy. He put florida's defense in a position where they only had to defend for 10 seconds. LSU would force a bad shot due to the shot clock running down, then Florida would take the ball down and spend 30 seconds trying to get a good shot.

This let Florida get within 8-10 points with one minute left in the game. LSU dominated most of the game prior to this strategy.
With one minute left in the game LSU allowed florida to inbound the ball and have a wide open shot within 5-6 seconds. LSU should have gone to a full court press or at least play man-to-man full court. This would force Florida to use more clock time getting the ball down court.

Coaching appeared to be nonexistent for LSU.
The refs made many bad calls, but this had nothing to do with poor coaching.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68656 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 2:02 pm to
That's why basketball always loses my interest. It becomes a good strategy to foul. No other sport are you doing something against the rules to extend the game.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14502 posts
Posted on 2/28/16 at 2:38 pm to
I would have liked to have seen some sort of defensive adjustment to letting the UF guard go coast-to-coast with no resistance over and over again.

If you won't call a time out to do it, pull a couple of guards to the sideline during the free throws and give some instructions.

Finally at the end we picked up full court so at least he couldn't get a full spring start, the only adjustment I saw.

Whatever we worked on after the Georgia game didn't take. It needed reinforcement. It was maddening.
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