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Les Miles' Buyout
Posted on 11/11/16 at 7:48 am
Posted on 11/11/16 at 7:48 am
If Les gets a head coaching job, is it true that LSU's payments are reduced by the difference of his old salary and his new salary?
Posted on 11/11/16 at 7:52 am to gumbeaux
Yes whatever LSU owes him that year is reduced by his current salary.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 7:52 am to gumbeaux
Yes, it would be nice if Les found employment.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 7:54 am to WPBTiger
As per reports from Dandy Don-- Miles is leading candidate for Norte Dame job and second behind Herman for Texas job.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 7:56 am to beauxroux
quote:Is this true? Shocking if so.
Miles is leading candidate for Norte Dame job and second behind Herman for Texas job.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 7:57 am to The Mick
Does Les have to demonstrate effort to land a head coaching job or can he just rest on his laurels and collect the check?
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:00 am to gumbeaux
He must actively try to get a job.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:00 am to beauxroux
As per reports from Dandy Don-- Miles is leading candidate for Norte Dame job and second behind Herman for Texas job.
I read that which led to my question in the OP.
If Les landed a high profile job, then you would think the difference in the new salary and old salary would be small.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:02 am to gumbeaux
Yes for sure. The better the job he lands the better it is for LSU.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:04 am to gumbeaux
May also encourage big program to offer him job on the cheap.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:06 am to beauxroux
quote:
As per reports from Dandy Don-- Miles is leading candidate for Norte Dame job and second behind Herman for Texas job.
would one selling point to hire miles be that they could pay him a fraction of what they'd pay other coaches because he would be getting paid the difference by lsu?
that would free up money for him to spend on assistants and allow a school to hire a "marquee" coach at a discount
eta: like the post above states
This post was edited on 11/11/16 at 8:08 am
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:07 am to The Mick
No. Miles isn't that highly regarded at this point. Other than his first three years here when he rode Saban's roster to a nice run , he had one really good year which ended in total humiliation. In the 5 years since, it was a marked decline. That fact isn't lost on people making those types of decisions at major universities
This post was edited on 11/11/16 at 8:10 am
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:07 am to beauxroux
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:12 am to Stephen1979
[link=(No. Miles isn't that highly regarded at this point. Other than his first three years here when he rode Saban's roster to a nice run , he had one really good year which ended in total humiliation. That fact isn't lost on people making those types of decisions at major universities)]No. Miles isn't that highly regarded at this point. Other than his first three years here when he rode Saban's roster to a nice run , he had one really good year which ended in total humiliation. That fact isn't lost on people making those types of decisions at major universities[/link]
Actually reality is contrary to your wrong opinion. They also see overall success rate from 2005-2012, the 2007 AND 2011 seasons and when there was a drop off he still won 8 games a year minimum. Then of course there is his recruiting prowess. He may not get those jobs but there are those out there whose opinions matter more than yours (and mine for that matter) who would have a better sentiment toward Miles. But that is OK you can be wrong. It does not make you a lesser human being:).
Actually reality is contrary to your wrong opinion. They also see overall success rate from 2005-2012, the 2007 AND 2011 seasons and when there was a drop off he still won 8 games a year minimum. Then of course there is his recruiting prowess. He may not get those jobs but there are those out there whose opinions matter more than yours (and mine for that matter) who would have a better sentiment toward Miles. But that is OK you can be wrong. It does not make you a lesser human being:).
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:15 am to Coater
quote:
would one selling point to hire miles be that they could pay him a fraction of what they'd pay other coaches because he would be getting paid the difference by lsu? that would free up money for him to spend on assistants and allow a school to hire a "marquee" coach at a discount eta: like the post above states
I had not thought about that. Why wouldn't they do that?
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:18 am to Canwoodtiger
Not only comes in as a great recruiter, but has the personal character that brings honor to a program. You won't find Les on a motorcycle with his gf, whom he unlawfully hired as his assistant and lied about her presence at a crash scene.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:06 am to gumbeaux
quote:
I had not thought about that. Why wouldn't they do that?
Because there is a clause which prevents it. He has to be compensated at a rate which is fair and within the "market".
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:07 am to beauxroux
It's not the difference between new salary and salary at LSU. LSU only owes him about 1.5 mil a yr. so anything over that he makes will cancel his check from LSU for that year
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:10 am to Coater
quote:
would one selling point to hire miles be that they could pay him a fraction of what they'd pay other coaches because he would be getting paid the difference by lsu?
I haven't read the contract, but I doubt Les would try that, at least doubt a large difference, because LSU could likely sue for breach of contract (bad faith), if not bad faith duty to mitigate. And Les would have to take the loss if LSU won.
It wouldn't be hard to prove if a school like Texas or Notre Dame heavily underpaid a coach
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:33 am to ST3PH3N
All of you are assuming that Miles and LSU didn't sign a settlement on his buyout. Normally, in these type of contract negotiations, the coach is willing to take a smaller amount in settlement knowing that he doesn't have to offset the buyout in the future against future salary. I am not saying that took place in Les Miles' situation, but it could have taken place. I've read what his contract says (it is a public record document), but I have not seen any signed settlement.
In any event, if they didn't sign a settlement, Les Miles has an obligation to mitigate his damages - which means he must seek employment and be paid fair market value for his services (no $1 a year contract). If his contract was not fair market value, LSU could argue that their buyout amount is reduced by what fair market value should be. That normally results in litigation or settlement.
In case someone questions this - I do this for a living (I am an attorney), so I familiar with how this works.
In any event, if they didn't sign a settlement, Les Miles has an obligation to mitigate his damages - which means he must seek employment and be paid fair market value for his services (no $1 a year contract). If his contract was not fair market value, LSU could argue that their buyout amount is reduced by what fair market value should be. That normally results in litigation or settlement.
In case someone questions this - I do this for a living (I am an attorney), so I familiar with how this works.
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