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Les Miles' Buyout

Posted on 11/11/16 at 7:48 am
Posted by gumbeaux
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Posted on 11/11/16 at 7:48 am
If Les gets a head coaching job, is it true that LSU's payments are reduced by the difference of his old salary and his new salary?

Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43127 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 7:52 am to
Yes whatever LSU owes him that year is reduced by his current salary.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
31049 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 7:52 am to
Yes, it would be nice if Les found employment.
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2144 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 7:54 am to
As per reports from Dandy Don-- Miles is leading candidate for Norte Dame job and second behind Herman for Texas job.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43127 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 7:56 am to
quote:

Miles is leading candidate for Norte Dame job and second behind Herman for Texas job.
Is this true? Shocking if so.
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
4467 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 7:57 am to
Does Les have to demonstrate effort to land a head coaching job or can he just rest on his laurels and collect the check?
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43127 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:00 am to
He must actively try to get a job.
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
4467 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:00 am to

As per reports from Dandy Don-- Miles is leading candidate for Norte Dame job and second behind Herman for Texas job.

I read that which led to my question in the OP.

If Les landed a high profile job, then you would think the difference in the new salary and old salary would be small.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43127 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:02 am to
Yes for sure. The better the job he lands the better it is for LSU.
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2144 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:04 am to
May also encourage big program to offer him job on the cheap.
Posted by Coater
Madison, MS
Member since Jun 2005
33063 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:06 am to
quote:

As per reports from Dandy Don-- Miles is leading candidate for Norte Dame job and second behind Herman for Texas job.


would one selling point to hire miles be that they could pay him a fraction of what they'd pay other coaches because he would be getting paid the difference by lsu?

that would free up money for him to spend on assistants and allow a school to hire a "marquee" coach at a discount

eta: like the post above states
This post was edited on 11/11/16 at 8:08 am
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:07 am to
No. Miles isn't that highly regarded at this point. Other than his first three years here when he rode Saban's roster to a nice run , he had one really good year which ended in total humiliation. In the 5 years since, it was a marked decline. That fact isn't lost on people making those types of decisions at major universities
This post was edited on 11/11/16 at 8:10 am
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:07 am to
Posted by Canwoodtiger
Member since Oct 2015
3737 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:12 am to
[link=(No. Miles isn't that highly regarded at this point. Other than his first three years here when he rode Saban's roster to a nice run , he had one really good year which ended in total humiliation. That fact isn't lost on people making those types of decisions at major universities)]No. Miles isn't that highly regarded at this point. Other than his first three years here when he rode Saban's roster to a nice run , he had one really good year which ended in total humiliation. That fact isn't lost on people making those types of decisions at major universities[/link]

Actually reality is contrary to your wrong opinion. They also see overall success rate from 2005-2012, the 2007 AND 2011 seasons and when there was a drop off he still won 8 games a year minimum. Then of course there is his recruiting prowess. He may not get those jobs but there are those out there whose opinions matter more than yours (and mine for that matter) who would have a better sentiment toward Miles. But that is OK you can be wrong. It does not make you a lesser human being:).
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
4467 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:15 am to
quote:

would one selling point to hire miles be that they could pay him a fraction of what they'd pay other coaches because he would be getting paid the difference by lsu? that would free up money for him to spend on assistants and allow a school to hire a "marquee" coach at a discount eta: like the post above states


I had not thought about that. Why wouldn't they do that?
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2144 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:18 am to
Not only comes in as a great recruiter, but has the personal character that brings honor to a program. You won't find Les on a motorcycle with his gf, whom he unlawfully hired as his assistant and lied about her presence at a crash scene.
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4745 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:06 am to
quote:




I had not thought about that. Why wouldn't they do that?




Because there is a clause which prevents it. He has to be compensated at a rate which is fair and within the "market".
Posted by matsuflex
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
1523 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:07 am to
It's not the difference between new salary and salary at LSU. LSU only owes him about 1.5 mil a yr. so anything over that he makes will cancel his check from LSU for that year
Posted by ST3PH3N
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
466 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:10 am to
quote:

would one selling point to hire miles be that they could pay him a fraction of what they'd pay other coaches because he would be getting paid the difference by lsu?


I haven't read the contract, but I doubt Les would try that, at least doubt a large difference, because LSU could likely sue for breach of contract (bad faith), if not bad faith duty to mitigate. And Les would have to take the loss if LSU won.

It wouldn't be hard to prove if a school like Texas or Notre Dame heavily underpaid a coach
Posted by WacoTiger
Waco, Texas
Member since Nov 2003
3673 posts
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:33 am to
All of you are assuming that Miles and LSU didn't sign a settlement on his buyout. Normally, in these type of contract negotiations, the coach is willing to take a smaller amount in settlement knowing that he doesn't have to offset the buyout in the future against future salary. I am not saying that took place in Les Miles' situation, but it could have taken place. I've read what his contract says (it is a public record document), but I have not seen any signed settlement.

In any event, if they didn't sign a settlement, Les Miles has an obligation to mitigate his damages - which means he must seek employment and be paid fair market value for his services (no $1 a year contract). If his contract was not fair market value, LSU could argue that their buyout amount is reduced by what fair market value should be. That normally results in litigation or settlement.

In case someone questions this - I do this for a living (I am an attorney), so I familiar with how this works.
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