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Learning to love LSU offense- article
Posted on 9/16/15 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 9/16/15 at 4:41 pm
From Sports On Earth
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This sort of style all comes down to the personnel. It can backfire terribly and cause a coach to get fired, but it can also wear down the opposition and work magnificently if the players are equipped to handle it. In LSU's case, with the talent it also has on defense, it's hard to argue against any philosophy that involves handing the ball to Fournette as much as possible and hoping for the best.
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 5:01 pm
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Posted on 9/16/15 at 4:42 pm to pecanridge
quote:I was beginning to love it from what I saw in our McNeese preview and the 1st qtr of MSU. I ended up with blue balls once again
Learning to love LSU offense
Posted on 9/16/15 at 4:43 pm to ForeverLSU02
Hahaha
Posted on 9/16/15 at 4:54 pm to pecanridge
It can be interesting to watch if you concentrate on the blocking schemes - pulling and trapping and stuff like that. And of course it's fun when the backs break a big one or a play action pass goes for a long one.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 6:10 pm to Methuselah
or you can just watch old Cholly Mac tapes
Posted on 9/16/15 at 6:12 pm to pecanridge
As long as we win I guess I'm content. In just not paying to go see it in person.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 6:18 pm to ForeverLSU02
You're just an idiot.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 6:24 pm to pecanridge
Fournette will be even more effective with more balance. The philosophy was 1 made fg from costing us a game that should have never come down to that. It has cost up 2-3 games in season's past.
We need an offense like 2013 that still features a back like Hill for over 1k..but with a defense.. To have national championship aspirations. I believe we have that on both sides of the ball. I believe LSU will open it up more as the season goes on. What we saw at home week 1 and the first half of miss st is for a reason and it's coming.
We need an offense like 2013 that still features a back like Hill for over 1k..but with a defense.. To have national championship aspirations. I believe we have that on both sides of the ball. I believe LSU will open it up more as the season goes on. What we saw at home week 1 and the first half of miss st is for a reason and it's coming.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 6:36 pm to pecanridge
I love the brand of football we play. The only negative about the offense we run is when it doesn't work
Posted on 9/16/15 at 6:47 pm to MC5601
LSU opponents are hoping we play like the second half of MSU game so the don't have to worry about anything else, LSU needs to play unpredictable to fully utilize their talents.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 6:50 pm to pecanridge
I was an OT in high school, and we ran this same type of offense. Gritty and crushing run game with passing plays when needed. That's the reason I love LSUs offense. Got big heavy TEs blocking, fullback creating spaces, and a RB who can create for himself. The only problem is, sometimes it becomes overkill and in HS we would run the same plays over and over even though they didnt work. Going into my senior year, we got a transfer dual threat QB and ran I formation and read options. So many different looks let us run the same plays but add little tweaks here and there. Imho LSUs current offense works fine, but they just need to add in a few tweaks to make it harder for the defense to recognize what's going on.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 8:31 pm to pecanridge
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it can also wear down the opposition and work magnificently if the players are equipped to handle it.
It wears down the fans. The opposition outscored LSU 19-7 after the first quarter.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 8:44 pm to pecanridge
I don't think anyone is against running the football a lot, so I think you're missing the point.
No one is happy with the fact that we do the same 5 running plays over and over.
When you do the same thing, it's easy for defensive coaches and players to key on a movement or presnap read and know exactly what's coming.
So, maybe add some formations or different looks and still give it to Fournette 25-30 times. Or put a better athlete at fullback sometimes (like Jacob Hester style) and do some more of that shite that worked so well. Guice is probably the same size as Hester was, and probably has better "measurables."
When's the last time we ran a draw? (not the QB variety)
Hopefully the variety will come as Brandon Harris continues to get experience, but this shite has been going on awhile.
No one is happy with the fact that we do the same 5 running plays over and over.
When you do the same thing, it's easy for defensive coaches and players to key on a movement or presnap read and know exactly what's coming.
So, maybe add some formations or different looks and still give it to Fournette 25-30 times. Or put a better athlete at fullback sometimes (like Jacob Hester style) and do some more of that shite that worked so well. Guice is probably the same size as Hester was, and probably has better "measurables."
When's the last time we ran a draw? (not the QB variety)
Hopefully the variety will come as Brandon Harris continues to get experience, but this shite has been going on awhile.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 8:47 pm to hbuc88
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You're just an idiot.
HE's an idiot huh? Because watching our offense at times is tantamount to watching paint dry. Gotcha!
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:22 pm to hbuc88
quote:I almost took that personal until I read through your pathetic post history
hbuc88
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:31 pm to ForeverLSU02
Dude just posts you're an idiot or you're stupid every other post 
Posted on 9/16/15 at 9:40 pm to thunderbird1100
Posted on 9/17/15 at 7:01 am to DonJuanDaMiles
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So, maybe add some formations or different looks and still give it to Fournette 25-30 times. Or put a better athlete at fullback sometimes (like Jacob Hester style) and do some more of that shite that worked so well. Guice is probably the same size as Hester was, and probably has better "measurables."
LSU ran 11 personnel (1 back/1 TE/3 WRs) on 24 out of 61 offensive snaps. 19 snaps out of 21 personnel, 4 out of 22 (three in the fourth quarter), and three out of 12 (one back/2 TE). There was also 1 goal-line look and 1 wildcat.
Darrel Williams did his best Kenny Hilliard impression with 45 TOUGH yards. He's going to punish a lot of defenders if he can keep that leg-drive up.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 7:16 am to 7Tiger7
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Imho LSUs current offense works fine, but they just need to add in a few tweaks to make it harder for the defense to recognize what's going on.
Oh, it's coming. #secretplaybook
Posted on 9/17/15 at 7:35 am to pecanridge
If we are supposed to learn to love that type of offense, then why are we trying to get so many WRs yearly? Why are we getting a pass catching TE every year?
2013
4 WRs, pass catching TE
2014
4 WRs, pass catching TE
2015
3 WRs (we had four, but one had to go JUCO), pass catching TE
2016
2 WR, pass catching TE. We had 3 WRs, and were looking for another still, but one has decomitted.
So I'm looking at this, and I'm seeing us yearly pick up more pass catching weapons than an air raid, soooooo, why should I expect, and learn to love to run the ball 70% of the time? Doesn't make sense with the players we are recruiting. I mean have you seen the hands from Ducre, Fournette, Williams, and Guice? Moore was a TE in HS, Mouton was a TE in high school, Upchurch was a WR. Smith, Washington, and now Pettigrew, all top 6 TEs, all receiving TEs.
So forgive me if I want to see an NFL level offense. Utilization of all pass catchers (WRs, RBs, TEs, FBs), and not just special packages like put Guice in for one play and predictably throw to him.
And I love our running backs running the ball, but not only is our running game stale, the style of running is stale as well. Like somebody said a couple days ago, most of what Harris did wasn't really a zone read, more like a delayed handoff. How about getting a little more creative than run straight into a wall 35 of 45 run plays.
Since it was the first game, ok I'll get over that, but we have way too many weapons to just hulk smash into a 10 person wall all game (exaggerating a bit).
2013
4 WRs, pass catching TE
2014
4 WRs, pass catching TE
2015
3 WRs (we had four, but one had to go JUCO), pass catching TE
2016
2 WR, pass catching TE. We had 3 WRs, and were looking for another still, but one has decomitted.
So I'm looking at this, and I'm seeing us yearly pick up more pass catching weapons than an air raid, soooooo, why should I expect, and learn to love to run the ball 70% of the time? Doesn't make sense with the players we are recruiting. I mean have you seen the hands from Ducre, Fournette, Williams, and Guice? Moore was a TE in HS, Mouton was a TE in high school, Upchurch was a WR. Smith, Washington, and now Pettigrew, all top 6 TEs, all receiving TEs.
So forgive me if I want to see an NFL level offense. Utilization of all pass catchers (WRs, RBs, TEs, FBs), and not just special packages like put Guice in for one play and predictably throw to him.
And I love our running backs running the ball, but not only is our running game stale, the style of running is stale as well. Like somebody said a couple days ago, most of what Harris did wasn't really a zone read, more like a delayed handoff. How about getting a little more creative than run straight into a wall 35 of 45 run plays.
Since it was the first game, ok I'll get over that, but we have way too many weapons to just hulk smash into a 10 person wall all game (exaggerating a bit).
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