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Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by TT
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Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:10 pm to
Tough guy alert! Tough guy alert!
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36890 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:21 pm to
For all the hype they gave that freshman outfielder all weekend in TV coverage he looked poor with such lack of effort on that play
Posted by Tino
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Member since Dec 2004
86225 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:23 pm to
Just watched the replay. Watson was on the bag as he fielded the ball
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26267 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:28 pm to
true

yeah that makes sense then
Posted by tbabino
Member since Aug 2014
1537 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 8:32 pm to
I was sitting midway between the third base bag and where the hit landed.
The runner could have been thrown out had the left fielder come up throwing.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10096 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:19 pm to
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Just watched the replay. Watson was on the bag as he fielded the ball
Can't watch. Did he have time to turn set and throw?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/7/17 at 10:14 pm to
You have no clue, I've coached enough third base to know that you can.

You judge the ball in flight and say part way and the runner drifts off the bag.

Routine play really. Immediately tag on a ball in the air and drift up the line if it's shallow in case it falls in.
Posted by Tiger Roux
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
4939 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 10:28 pm to
Left fielder def. should have made the throw. Could have gotten him with a good throw. He must have thought the runner was running and not that close to the bag.
Posted by OneFifty
No favorite team now
Member since Aug 2012
3872 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:03 am to
Now that you pointed it out, I did not give it much thought at the time, but I remember the camera showing the hit and the outfielder's reaction, which included the ball bouncing up, him grabbing it and his disgust.

The next camera shot is the baserunner about 1/2 way from home plate speeding down the line. His distance from home plate after such a long lapse in time now makes sense with the tag-up explanation.
Posted by Zanzibaw
BR
Member since Jun 2016
2948 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:02 am to
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Cain couldn't tell it was too shallow to tag??


Even if it's shallow, if they catch it you still have to go back to the bag. He did what he's been taught to do since he was about 5.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:22 am to
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You have no clue, I've coached enough third base to know that you can.

You judge the ball in flight and say part way and the runner drifts off the bag.

Routine play really. Immediately tag on a ball in the air and drift up the line if it's shallow in case it falls in.




It was a line drive not a fly ball. The ball was in the air for maybe 3 seconds. If it was a true fly ball I would get your point but this play in particular is a different situation. He did the right thing ball hit in air he went back to bag. At that point once you get third then you judge the distance. This play as soon as he got back to third the ball hit the ground. Usually even if you aren't tagging you will bluff the tag to force a throw anyway so he would still need to be on the bag.

the only person who did anything wrong on this play was the left fielder not attempting a throw. Would have taken a perfect throw to get him and he wasn't square to make the throw but you have to attempt it.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:33 am to
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WOW, if only I could be so cool.


You never have to worry about being cool...no shot
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67593 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:43 am to
The left fielder must have thought Watson was cruising into home and just tossed it away in disgust.
Posted by 81Tiger
LSU Alumnus
Member since Sep 2009
6629 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:55 am to
And I'm sure the LF had a noodle arm, right?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56687 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:10 am to
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Watson tagging was very poor coaching


No. That's exactly wrong.

Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62107 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:11 am to
It was a left handed outfielder and he was moving full speed towards the foul line to try and catch the ball in the air. There was no way he could have worked his body around and made an accurate throw home with enough velocity to beat the runner home. The hit was not as shallow as DoubleB is claiming. It wasn't warning track deep for sure, but it was deep enough and hit on enough of a line drive angle that the outfielder could not get any momentum on a potential throw home.
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 8:12 am
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:12 am to
The need to find blame on a coach for absolutely everything is insufferable on this board. Even a play to win the game someone is going to try and say the coach messed up.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85141 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:16 am to
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It was a left handed outfielder and he was moving full speed towards the foul line
He was coming in some too. It's a better angle than going to his left. I don't think the throw would have beat Watson, but it was certainly worth a shot.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126965 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:19 am to
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The need to find blame on a coach for absolutely everything is insufferable on this board.
Now LSU baseball "fans" on the Rant are complaining that an opposing player didn't try to throw out the LSU game-winning run at the plate.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62107 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:27 am to
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but it was certainly worth a shot.


Meh, chunking the ball into the bullpen is way cooler.

Edit: that's not my downvote on your post
This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 8:28 am
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