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Kyle Trask vs LSU - Pressure stats vs no pressure according to SECStatCat
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:12 pm
When pressured:
10/14, 133 yards. 5 inaccurate passes (36% inaccurate), 2 of which were uncatchable. 3 passes "interceptable" (21%). 2 sacks. 7 first downs. 9.1 average yards to gain. 5.7 blockers, on average.
Success rate - 71%
When unpressured:
13/25, 177 yards. 14 inaccurate passes (56% inaccurate), 5 of which were uncatchable. 2 passes "interceptable" (8%). 0 sacks. 10 first downs. 8.0 average yards to gain. 5.9 blockers, on average.
Success rate - 52%
I thought this was a pretty interesting breakdown. Trask was actually better, on average, against pressure, but he was more likely to make a big mistake (intecerptable percentage) and obviously more likely to get sacked.
Seems a bit counterintuitive to the "blitz blitz blitz" mantra we've heard on here since Saturday.
ETA - LINK
10/14, 133 yards. 5 inaccurate passes (36% inaccurate), 2 of which were uncatchable. 3 passes "interceptable" (21%). 2 sacks. 7 first downs. 9.1 average yards to gain. 5.7 blockers, on average.
Success rate - 71%
When unpressured:
13/25, 177 yards. 14 inaccurate passes (56% inaccurate), 5 of which were uncatchable. 2 passes "interceptable" (8%). 0 sacks. 10 first downs. 8.0 average yards to gain. 5.9 blockers, on average.
Success rate - 52%
I thought this was a pretty interesting breakdown. Trask was actually better, on average, against pressure, but he was more likely to make a big mistake (intecerptable percentage) and obviously more likely to get sacked.
Seems a bit counterintuitive to the "blitz blitz blitz" mantra we've heard on here since Saturday.
ETA - LINK
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 1:13 pm
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:15 pm to slackster
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When unpressured:
13/25, 177 yards. 14 inaccurate passes (56% inaccurate), 5 of which were uncatchable. 2 passes "interceptable" (8%). 0 sacks. 10 first downs. 8.0 average yards to gain. 5.9 blockers, on average.
Success rate - 52%
How would one get an "Unpressured" sack?
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:16 pm to slackster
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Seems a bit counterintuitive to the "blitz blitz blitz" mantra we've heard on here since Saturday
Most of the people that post here are clueless. That's nothing new
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:16 pm to slackster
Maybe, just maybe analytics is driving Aranda play calling.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:16 pm to GumboPot
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Maybe, just maybe analytics is driving Aranda play calling.
Nah. Aranda just sucks.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:16 pm to bayou85
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How would one get an "Unpressured" sack?
When the stat line says 0 for sacks.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:20 pm to bayou85
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How would one get an "Unpressured" sack?
Trying to find any info on that website is a fool's errand. They need to define the terms or the stats mean nothing.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:20 pm to bayou85
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How would one get an "Unpressured" sack?
I'm just keeping the metrics the same across the board.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:22 pm to slackster
Interesting, but situation probably makes a stat like this less relevant. More likely to have a long pass on a 'unpressured' play, which obviously is less likely to be successful. And does this count screen plays as 'pressured'?
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:23 pm to slackster
The more simple explanation is that these stats are an anomaly, which happens from time to time.
I do not think the lesson is that we should not endeavor to pressure quarterbacks.
Loom at the same stats over a season, as compared to one game, and I bet quarterbacks throwing under pressure throw for a less completion percentage and higher interception rate just about all the time.
I do not think the lesson is that we should not endeavor to pressure quarterbacks.
Loom at the same stats over a season, as compared to one game, and I bet quarterbacks throwing under pressure throw for a less completion percentage and higher interception rate just about all the time.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:23 pm to LNCHBOX
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Most of the people that post here are clueless. That's nothing new
They'd get torched by Burrow. Dude has a 144.1 NFL passer rating against pressure. 25/37, 410 yards, 5 TDs, and no INTs.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:24 pm to slackster
Interesting breakdown, but I think things could be hidden in the those stats.
For example, it looks like the "success rate" is really just completion percentage. If you complete a 7-yard pass on 3rd-and-10, were you really "successful?"
Not a criticism of Aranda's philosophy. I'm just commenting on how the stats are portrayed.
For example, it looks like the "success rate" is really just completion percentage. If you complete a 7-yard pass on 3rd-and-10, were you really "successful?"
Not a criticism of Aranda's philosophy. I'm just commenting on how the stats are portrayed.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:25 pm to slackster
Those are great stats. But there are some things that go unaccounted for when dealing with stats. For example, when it comes to stalling a drive. One play can drastically affect or stall a drive. Negative plays are more likely to do that.
A quarterback can be inaccurate on 2 out of 3 plays and still drive the field. But if he gets sacked for a loss of 10 on one of those plays the drive is more likely to stall.
A quarterback can be inaccurate on 2 out of 3 plays and still drive the field. But if he gets sacked for a loss of 10 on one of those plays the drive is more likely to stall.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:25 pm to slackster
There is no context to these stats though... Down and distance? Game situation... quarter, spot on the field, risk/reward, etc...
So these are just meaningless globs of numbers.
So these are just meaningless globs of numbers.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:25 pm to slackster
Imagine if Queen holds on to the ball or is able to knock it down. And/or if Delpit held on to this INT. tRant would be inundated with threads about how amazing Aranda’s gameplan was.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:26 pm to slackster
Did you think blitzing was always better or something?
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:29 pm to TDlurker
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And does this count screen plays as 'pressured'?
Doesn't seem to be the case. Florida has thrown a screen on 12.1% of their non-pressured attempts and 12.7% of their pressured attempts.
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More likely to have a long pass on a 'unpressured' play, which obviously is less likely to be successful
Some truth to that, for sure. Trask's average depth of target was 15 yards when unpressured vs 8 yards when pressured.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:29 pm to slackster
what about during "moderate pressure" ?
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:29 pm to slackster
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Seems a bit counterintuitive to the "blitz blitz blitz" mantra we've heard on here since Saturday.
you do realize some of those pressures were not during blitzes right?
I would love to see a drive by drive breakdown of when we pressured him and didn't pressure him...also how many blitzes we ran. These stats aren't showing the whole story. The eye test says we sucked at getting pressure on him and the HC even said that was the focus for the second half.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 1:29 pm to slackster
Interesting, thanks. He seemed to hit receivers at will when he had time to throw; this shows otherwise. Goes to show that the big plays by other teams tend to stand out more in memory.
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