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Kirby Smart is exhibit A for why you don't hire UNPROVEN HC

Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:34 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:34 pm
Lots of guys are great coordinators.

Leave the proving grounds for lower tier schools

The LSUs and UGAs of the world are nuts if they let their school be the place a guy tries his hands at gaining first HC success.
This post was edited on 10/15/16 at 3:35 pm
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29191 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

Kirby Smart is exhibit A fit why you don't hire a Saban assistant


FIFY
Posted by jamalsdeck
Member since Jul 2016
2818 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:38 pm to
Okay?

Also, LSU isn't Georgia.

Miles was a very average coach and even he maintained and already established LSU team.

I'm not sure who you are referring to here.

I really believe LSU would do well with an offensive genius HC because they can always attract great DC's IMO with this talent.

Herman and Jimbo are still my #1 and #2. If Coach O wins out then he probably earned it.

But again, LSU is not Georgia. Are they still starting a true freshman QB?
Posted by BayouTiger311
Guatier, MS
Member since May 2015
551 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:41 pm to
Can you be proven until you get a shot to prove?

I agree with the premise you need HC experience. But it doesnt mean it always has to be successful experience. We learn from failure also.

Don't remember Saban's record prior to LSU. But I am sure he learned from losing.
Posted by TigerCliff777
Member since Feb 2013
4664 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:42 pm to
agree

Nick is awesome

doesn't make you a Head Coach
Posted by someoldhussy
Candyland
Member since Jun 2007
2439 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:43 pm to
Has there been a single name attached to our job with no HC experience?
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52603 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:44 pm to
What coordinators are even in consideration anyway? Kiffen isn't coming here
This post was edited on 10/15/16 at 3:45 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51383 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:44 pm to
Amen. Resumes rarely lie
Posted by Pencil Stick
Member since Oct 2016
79 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

Don't remember Saban's record prior to LSU. But I am sure he learned from losing


I remember he was doing GREAT at Michigan State, and he was considered one of the up and coming coaches by those in the know.

Wikipedia

1995–1997?—?Beginning in 1995, Saban moderately improved MSU's fortunes, taking the Spartans to minor bowl games (all of which they lost by double-digit margins) in each of his first three seasons. From 1995 to 1997, Michigan State finished 6–5–1, 6–6, and 7–5. In comparison, MSU had finished 5–6, 6–6 and 5–6 (prior to NCAA forfeits) in 1992–1994.
1998?—?On November 7, 1998, the Spartans upset the No. 1 ranked Ohio State 28–24 at Ohio Stadium. However, even after the upset and an early-season rout of then-highly ranked Notre Dame the Spartans finished 6–6, including three last-minute losses featuring turnovers, defensive lapses, and special-teams misplays, and failed to earn a bowl invitation.
1999?—?Saban led the Spartans to a 9–2 season that included wins over Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State. However, the two losses were routs at the hands of Purdue and Wisconsin. Following the final regular-season game against Penn State, Saban abruptly resigned to accept the head coaching position with LSU. Saban's assistant head coach and successor, Bobby Williams, then coached MSU to a Citrus Bowl victory over Florida, giving the Spartans an overall record of 10–2 for the 1999 season. It would be the best season in terms of wins for the Spartans since 1965, and it would see the Spartans reach their highest ranking since the 1966 team.[21] Future NFL head coach Josh McDaniels served as a graduate assistant on Saban's 1999 coaching staff.
This post was edited on 10/15/16 at 3:50 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278324 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:48 pm to
pretty sure you can judge that after 6 games
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:49 pm to
BeBe won at USC.
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8331 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:50 pm to
I could be a good DC under Saban. Most people knew that it would be hard to gauge Smart's success.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9044 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:51 pm to
Still early in Smart's tenure. Time will tell how he does.

But, yes, I agree with the OP. And I said the same exact thing when Smart was hired. Lots of fans were excited because he was a UGA alum, and a Saban protege.

I told people I was skeptical since he's never been a HC before.

Most people wrote me off by saying things like "Saban's head coaching career had to start somewhere."

My response: "Uh, yeah, well Saban's first HC job was at Toledo."
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73144 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

Don't remember Saban's record prior to LSU. But I am sure he learned from losing.
the year before Saban took over at MSU they went 0-11

His last season at MSU, they went 10-2

He was considered one of the bright up and comers and Emmert knew LSU HAD to get him
Posted by Lebowski
Dallas
Member since Oct 2013
3544 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

BeBe won at USC.



That's really funny. Coach O lovers point to 8 games as a full career of proven success. And he only won 6 of the 8.

LSU didn't fire Miles to hire a DL coach.
Posted by la champ1
Member since Oct 2012
1435 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 4:03 pm to
It's his first year at Georgia. You can't tell much right now. By year three one can make judgements on his head coach abilities.
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

the year before Saban took over at MSU they went 0-11


You're stupid
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32412 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 4:15 pm to
Pot meet kettle..
Posted by chef tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
694 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 4:18 pm to
Didn't Saban lose to Vandy before?
This post was edited on 10/15/16 at 4:19 pm
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14420 posts
Posted on 10/15/16 at 4:44 pm to
Yeah, but Saban is the DC....come on. He basically is. Smart and Muschamp are only proving that Saban is a legend and ,without him, they are worthless.
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