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Just a thought, but there might be some truth to it.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 9/23/17 at 3:25 pm
Danny Etling is a tough SOB with a very limited upside, hell he couldn't hold onto the starting job at Purdue when he was healthy yet he is supposed to have starting SEC QB talent but not starting Big Ten QB talent???? Makes absolutely no sense and I think the coaches know that.
Coach O is playing almost the entire 2017 recruiting class when there are upperclassmen at those spots. So why would he do that? Either we don't have talent on the team, which is so improbable it is just stupid even considering that because our recruiting rankings were #2, #5, and #2 in 2014, 2015, & 2016 respectively. So we have the talent on the team. Or maybe Coach O realizes that they can't win the SEC with who we have behind center but doesn't want to rush Brennan along, so he is trying to set LSU up for the next 3 years by getting the young guys as much playing time as possible this year to take runs the next 3 years when we have a QB that can help us compete in the top 10 in CFB.
I honestly don't think that is as far fetched as some people might believe because Coach O knows he is not going to be fired this year unless he goes 2-10 or 3-9 "which as bad as we played against MSU - which is better than people think - we aren't going to be that bad." So if you are going experiment this is the year to do it in a non-firable "unless you really screw up" year one and set himself and LSU up for the next 3 years.
Coach O is playing almost the entire 2017 recruiting class when there are upperclassmen at those spots. So why would he do that? Either we don't have talent on the team, which is so improbable it is just stupid even considering that because our recruiting rankings were #2, #5, and #2 in 2014, 2015, & 2016 respectively. So we have the talent on the team. Or maybe Coach O realizes that they can't win the SEC with who we have behind center but doesn't want to rush Brennan along, so he is trying to set LSU up for the next 3 years by getting the young guys as much playing time as possible this year to take runs the next 3 years when we have a QB that can help us compete in the top 10 in CFB.
I honestly don't think that is as far fetched as some people might believe because Coach O knows he is not going to be fired this year unless he goes 2-10 or 3-9 "which as bad as we played against MSU - which is better than people think - we aren't going to be that bad." So if you are going experiment this is the year to do it in a non-firable "unless you really screw up" year one and set himself and LSU up for the next 3 years.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 3:29 pm to Dudebro2
In this league you don't take the season off just to prepare to make a run the next 3 years. At a program like LSU, you put your head on a chopping block doing this.
You would basically be gambling your job away.
You would basically be gambling your job away.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 3:40 pm to Dudebro2
Makes since because we don't lose much talent Senior wise. Develop o-line and defense Try to win and get experience. Not throwing away the season but expected to lose a game or two. Preparing to dominate in 18
This post was edited on 9/24/17 at 10:01 am
Posted on 9/23/17 at 3:41 pm to Dudebro2
A plan like that better involve improved recruiting and a change in offensive philosophy.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 3:48 pm to BlindTiger7
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In this league you don't take the season off just to prepare to make a run the next 3 years.
never said that, matter of fact last time I checked, we have a complete football schedule for 2017 so LSU didn't take the season off.
Now if you are trying to insinuate that by playing all the freshman Coach O has given up? No that is not what I meant and Coach O's head was literally on the chopping block as soon as he was hired. Coach O is a very known commodity in Louisiana half the people were ecstatic he was hired as LSU's HC and the other half wanted him fired the next day. So he knows he has a short window, and he also knows, AND THE WORLD KNOWS, we still don't have a QB but it looks like we have a hell of a QB in Brennan.
He is competing now, but whether anyone wants to believe this or not he is setting himself and LSU up for the next 2-3 years with Brennan. I will accept my accolades then thank you!
Posted on 9/23/17 at 3:57 pm to Dudebro2
O doesn't have the luxury to play for next year. No coach does, really. There is no draft to position for. And we've got 4th and 5th year guys who probably wouldn't appreciate that either. You play to win the game. Each and every one. It reallly is that simple. If the coaches feel Brennan gets to the point this year where he puts us in a better position to do that than Etling, he will start.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 4:02 pm to Dudebro2
If that was the case why not go ahead and get myles plenty of game time?
Posted on 9/23/17 at 4:04 pm to Dudebro2
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he is supposed to have starting SEC QB talent but not starting Big Ten QB talent???? Makes absolutely no sense and I think the coaches know that.
He was younger when he was at Purdue, and what's so great about SEC talent at QB vs. Big Ten talent at QB?
Posted on 9/23/17 at 4:12 pm to Dudebro2
Etling was a 4* QB that was recruited hard by our reigning OC.
You failed after the first sentence.
Plus I didn't read past it.
You failed after the first sentence.
Plus I didn't read past it.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 4:14 pm to Dudebro2
You are putting way too much thought into this. LSU looked bad because they are bad right now and there is nothing more to it.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 4:16 pm to Dudebro2
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Coach O is playing almost the entire 2017 recruiting class when there are upperclassmen at those spots. So why would he do that? Either we don't have talent on the team, which is so improbable it is just stupid
Not improbable at all. It's absolutely true. What upperclassmen should be playing that aren't?
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our recruiting rankings were #2, #5, and #2 in 2014, 2015, & 2016 respectively.
Recruiting rankings don't consider whether you filled needs, and don't reflect attrition. Our 2014 and 2015 classes were vastly overrated, ignored the OL and DL for the most part and were filled with practically nothing but epic busts. People just don't seem to realize the damage that was done to this program in the last two or three years that Miles was here.
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So we have the talent on the team.
There might be 6 players on our starting 22 on both sides of the ball who will play in the NFL. If so, that would be one of the least talented starting 22 for LSU in the last 15-20 years.
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maybe Coach O realizes that they can't win the SEC with who we have behind center but doesn't want to rush Brennan along, so he is trying to set LSU up for the next 3 years by getting the young guys as much playing time as possible this year to take runs the next 3 years when we have a QB that can help us compete in the top 10 in CFB.
Coach O, if he has any sense at all, realizes that we can't win the SEC regardless of who we have at QB. He's playing young players because they're all we have. The 2014 and 2015 classes, who should be juniors and seniors leading the team, were complete garbage, which is why only a small handful of them are even still on the roster, let alone contributing.
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if you are going experiment this is the year to do it in a non-firable "unless you really screw up" year one and set himself and LSU up for the next 3 years.
He's not experimenting. He's playing the best players at every position. The fact that so many of them are freshmen is just a product of our shitty recruiting in the last couple of years Miles was here.
Orgeron presumably knows what anybody with eyes can plainly see, which is that LSU is a program that will have to be completely rebuilt from the ground up. In that situation, it makes sense to play freshmen not only to get them experience but also because they're better than the classes ahead of them. Given that fact (and that's what it is, a fact, not an opinion), if he were just experimenting and playing for the future, it would make the most sense to play Brennan now even if he wouldn't be as good as Etling. The fact that Etling is playing means Orgeron is trying to make the most out of this season.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 4:20 pm to Dudebro2
Dude we just don't have the talent or the coaching. Just accept it
Posted on 9/23/17 at 4:22 pm to Dudebro2
Here is the truth:
LaTech is the best team in La.
LaTech is the best team in La.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 4:22 pm to Dudebro2
The Valley is in midseason form today.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 4:47 pm to Dudebro2
Your complex thought pattern which you took 3 paragraphs and 678 words describing Coach O's possible strategy is 103 IQ points too complex
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:05 am to Dudebro2
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he is trying to set LSU up for the next 3 years by getting the young guys as much playing time as possible
I think this is obvious. And since the Syracuse game is now in the books, and we see that he risked the game by substituting Brennan for an effective Etling, it further supports your theory.
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