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Posted on 9/25/10 at 12:13 pm to CaseyMc2
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Fish I agree with you that the 38% is scewed for what the intender wanted to partray about JJ.
The average pass thrown by all QB's is about 10 yards give or take 1-2 yards. Now with that given the longer the pass the lower the completion rate/percentage and that is for all QB's. Now to JJ, it is not right to say that any pass that JJ throws he has a 38% rate when we all know that he has not thrown enough downfield to have a comparable percentage rate to compare with. The media is taking what JJ does and applying it across the board and we all should know that does not compute. I wish he could throw 30-50 yard passes at a 38% rate, as would any QB, we would see the ball in the air more often that would mean he would have a 50-60% rate on all passes if not higher.
Last year in one game we saw a simblance of what we all thought what JJ should be but in reality it was a 1 game anomaly for him to have. We did not see it before that game and have not seen it since that game and that was the Auburn game with the one drive last week when after MooMoo St scored after Halftime. For anyone to say he should be able to or has done it before is strictly giving their own estimation into what or how JJ should be at this time. To me the only reason the Coaches are going with JJ is he does not turn the ball over and JL not only turned it over he gave up INT's that went for scores. Why did they go for score's it was where he threw the ball for the opposing team to INT the ball and was able to score with it.
Fish if this is not what you are saying then maybe I do not agree sorry but, this is what I am saying. JMHO! Hope this helps.
Look dude, if I tell you Joe Blow is only hitting 38 percent of his passes on passes thrown in excess of 10 yards alone, it sounds awful. However, if I put it in proper context and tell you that Joe Blow is hitting 38 percent of his passes in excess of 10 yards, which is typical and about average for all college quarterbacks, well then it sounds reasonable and not nearly so awful because it sounds normal.
It was a cheap rhetorical trick presented out of context deliberately by the ESPN broadcast team, and it was so obvious to me that I figured most of you guys would catch it, but obviously as demonstrated by the number of posts in this thread, I was very wrong on the final point. Not only that, but even though I thought I had explained it adequately, some of you guys still can’t get it.
I mean it is the same kind of cheap rhetorical tricks demagogues have been using for generations to sucker dumb asses into voting for them and cutting their own throats at the same time.
This post was edited on 9/25/10 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 9/25/10 at 12:13 pm to 1p56
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Btw I have always wondered if this refers to your wife or your mom?
Actually it refers to your wife!
Posted on 9/25/10 at 12:41 pm to Dead Fish
I have to assume this is the completion rate for when the ball travels 10+ yards in the air. This would also take into account the times Jefferson has thrown the ball away.
Bad stat.
Bad stat.
Posted on 9/25/10 at 12:52 pm to Dead Fish
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which is typical and about average for all college quarterbacks
You keep throwing this out there, but aren't backing it up with anything. You say most passes are thrown over 10 yards, but if that were. the case, no one would be throwing an overall 70%.
Bring out some stats to back up your claim. For instance, I can tell you definitively that 6 of Jefferson's 10 completions went for less than 10 yards. His average per completion was 9.7 yds, average per attempt was 6.1 yds. If you can find an actual YAC statistic for the receivers, then you can determine how long each pass completed is in the air.
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