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Jimmy Sexton is laughing all the way to the bank

Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:43 pm
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17314 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:43 pm
I know everyone is having a grand ole time with King's comments, but I think almost universally everyone is focused on the wrong thing. Most here have heard of Jimmy Sexton, and know his reputation, but aren't putting two and two together on this.

LSU leadership made mind-numbingly obvious mistakes in the weeks leading up to any public comment. No matter who you believe leaked it, the leaks that not only was Miles about to be fired but Jimbo was the one and only candidate to replace him absolutely cripped LSU at the negotiation table.

You gave Jimmy Sexton, the best in the business, leverage. Leaking that Miles is gone paints LSU into a corner. You have to fire him, or risk him becoming a lame duck. Next, to presumably get the last few boosters on board, you sell them on replacing Miles with Jimbo. All week the talking point is "you don't make this move without a better guy lined up, and the boosters have their guy, there's a plan." You just let Sexton know you are all in on his client, and likely don't have a plan B.

So now, look at the timeline. For two weeks, "insiders" proclaim that Miles is 100% done, and that Jimbo has agreed to terms. King knows the number, the BOS knows the number. There is no wavering, the plan is in motion. Then, two days before everything is supposed to go down, King and Alleva just magically get cold feet and the whole thing falls apart?

What is more logical of these two scenarios?

A) After knowing the terms for two weeks and essentially cutting the legs out from under the coach, Alleva and King simply have a change of heart. Jimbo and Sexton, out of the goodness of their hearts and love for LSU, don't raise the price a dime.

B) Sexton recognizes he has LSU absolutely bent over a barrel, and asks for an unreasonable amount of money after an already large deal was agreed upon. King and Alleva have very little choice but to decline after recognizing they've been had.
Posted by MF Doom
I'm only Joshin'
Member since Oct 2008
11712 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:45 pm to
I guess I missed the announcement where Jimbo got a raise
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166135 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:45 pm to
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Leaking that Miles is gone paints LSU into a corner. You have to fire him


but we didn't
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:46 pm to
Firing/retaining CLM shouldn't have been dependent on getting Jimbo...sorry I think Jimbo would have been good but there are other coaches we could've hired cheaper.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17314 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

I guess I missed the announcement where Jimbo got a raise


For starters, that almost never happens immediately, and secondly, Jimbo doesn't have to get a raise from FSU to demand an unreasonable amount from LSU just to see if they bite. It's a win-win for him either way.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17314 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

Firing/retaining CLM shouldn't have been dependent on getting Jimbo



Agreed. Good leaders would have made the two issues separate. Ours didn't, and it cost them big time.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61758 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

B) Sexton recognizes he has LSU absolutely bent over a barrel, and asks for an unreasonable amount of money after an already large deal was agreed upon. King and Alleva have very little choice but to decline after recognizing they've been had.


If Jimbo wants to come to LSU, Sexton doesn't do this. If Jimbo doesn't want to come here, there was no need for the negotiations. If Sexton blew Jimbo's wishes to be the LSU coach, Sexton would be fired.






And this by MF Boom

quote:

I guess I missed the announcement where Jimbo got a raise
Posted by Earn Your Keep
Member since Nov 2013
1417 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:03 pm to
I don't care who a coach is or how good he may be...if his agent is Jimmy Sexton, I wouldn't even consider him for an interview.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8533 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:04 pm to
How? Wouldn't it be necessary for FSU to give him a raise in order for sexton to make more money. Sexton didn't kill this deal, a liberal bureaucrat who wanted to continue his narrative that we are poor killed this deal.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8533 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:06 pm to
Wrong! The announcement happens very quickly, especially when other jobs are floating around. Look how quickly we announced Miles raise/extension after the Arkansaa debacle.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17314 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

If Jimbo wants to come to LSU, Sexton doesn't do this. If Jimbo doesn't want to come here, there was no need for the negotiations. If Sexton blew Jimbo's wishes to be the LSU coach, Sexton would be fired.



That assumes Jimbo has a strong opinion either way. Is it not reasonable Jimbo would have come to LSU, but only for an amount of money that makes the upheaval of his very stable situation justifiable? I'm sure he trusts Sexton to communicate any changes.

Same goes for the raise. As I said earlier, he doesn't need a raise from FSU to try and get more from LSU. LSU is asking him to abandon a very stable situation for tougher competition. LSU needs him, he doesn't need LSU.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56365 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

I know everyone is having a grand ole time with King's comments, but I think almost universally everyone is focused on the wrong thing. Most here have heard of Jimmy Sexton, and know his reputation, but aren't putting two and two together on this.

LSU leadership made mind-numbingly obvious mistakes in the weeks leading up to any public comment. No matter who you believe leaked it, the leaks that not only was Miles about to be fired but Jimbo was the one and only candidate to replace him absolutely cripped LSU at the negotiation table.

You gave Jimmy Sexton, the best in the business, leverage. Leaking that Miles is gone paints LSU into a corner. You have to fire him, or risk him becoming a lame duck. Next, to presumably get the last few boosters on board, you sell them on replacing Miles with Jimbo. All week the talking point is "you don't make this move without a better guy lined up, and the boosters have their guy, there's a plan." You just let Sexton know you are all in on his client, and likely don't have a plan B.

So now, look at the timeline. For two weeks, "insiders" proclaim that Miles is 100% done, and that Jimbo has agreed to terms. King knows the number, the BOS knows the number. There is no wavering, the plan is in motion. Then, two days before everything is supposed to go down, King and Alleva just magically get cold feet and the whole thing falls apart?

What is more logical of these two scenarios?

A) After knowing the terms for two weeks and essentially cutting the legs out from under the coach, Alleva and King simply have a change of heart. Jimbo and Sexton, out of the goodness of their hearts and love for LSU, don't raise the price a dime.

B) Sexton recognizes he has LSU absolutely bent over a barrel, and asks for an unreasonable amount of money after an already large deal was agreed upon. King and Alleva have very little choice but to decline after recognizing they've been had.




I agree with you 100%

And, it underscores the absolute "mind-numbing" incompetence to start this process publicly without being 100% sure that you have Jimbo. the buyout money was committed based on Jimbo. The BOS approval was based on Jimbo.

Alleva bombed. And, King is using this circumstance as a platform to campaign for more money for the university (at the expense of the football program).
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56365 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

If Jimbo wants to come to LSU, Sexton doesn't do this. If Jimbo doesn't want to come here, there was no need for the negotiations. If Sexton blew Jimbo's wishes to be the LSU coach, Sexton would be fired.




Your definition of "wants to come to LSU" is very narrow.

Jimbo may have wanted to come to LSU...for a price that significantly alters his income.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56365 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:31 pm to
Disappointed that this is anchored.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17314 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

Disappointed that this is anchored.




Rummy plays golf with Alleva.
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