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re: JD doesn't have what we need from a QB...

Posted on 9/4/23 at 7:30 pm to
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
10716 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 7:30 pm to
First of all, stats don't tell it all, but they don't lie. The OL was not able to keep the heat off JD. JD used his legs to avoid the rush but it wasn't enough.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
52734 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 7:30 pm to
The wheels came off when we started dropping him back every 1st down. Early on we ran some gimmicks, misdirection and motion horizontal stuff but as soon as we put the game in his hands the blowout ensued.
Posted by El Tigre Grande
Bayou Self
Member since Jan 2006
2449 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 7:32 pm to
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I was drinking the koolaid that he was going to be a much improved passer. Boy, what a disappointment

yep
Posted by dalmond
Houston
Member since Aug 2008
219 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 7:34 pm to
Moscona just reads the stats and tells us we are all stupid for bashing JD.
Posted by BallariSE
Member since Sep 2021
221 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 7:34 pm to
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Show the screen shot of the open receiver? You can’t, all four receivers were tightly covered.

Moments before the sack:


He has time here to do anything he wants to avoid a 13 yard sack.

The pressure comes, and he still has time to throw it away:


But instead he tries to play hero ball, turns, and gets sacked:


This is what I mean by him having a lack of situational awareness needed for QB play. He has great instincts for a receiver, but when you've got Wingo and Perkins, you throw the ball away and put them at the 1.5 yard line. You don't take a 13 yard sack.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
52734 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 7:36 pm to
Guy in the flat is uncovered
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
5081 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 7:36 pm to
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You don't take a 13 yard sack.
If you're JD you do. He had an open receiver.
Posted by BallariSE
Member since Sep 2021
221 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 7:38 pm to
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Guy in the flat is uncovered

There's actually a guy on him, but it's hard to see in the pic I uploaded.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
281616 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 7:40 pm to
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3rd and 2, just stares down one receiver the whole way, throws an incompletion with a guy open on the other side:



"stares down the WR"

For one, that is considered open in big boy football. It's his first read and that is an easy completion. It's a quick slant. Doesn't really have time to stare at him


"throws an incompletion"


aka the ball gets batted down by a DL.

At least be truthful guy



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4th and 4, and he throws the ball 3 yards short of the first down:




blame the play design. Everything else was covered. Players routinely turn up and get a first down on plays like that, too.



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4th and goal at the 1.5 yard line, he takes a 13 yard sack trying to run away:




This is just ticky tack. Daniels was trying to keep the play alive. Again, a situation that he has shown the ability to escape from.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62517 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 7:46 pm to
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But instead he tries to play hero ball


How dare he try to play hero ball and scramble away from the pass rush on 4th and goal! He should have just given up.

I get it, the sack sucked. But the OC calling three straight drop back passes from the 2 yard line does not play into your personnel. That’s not who we are, and it’s not who Jayden is. Look at the screen shot, 4 receivers all tightly covered. You can see the db’s arm behind Mason Taylor and a guy is step for step with him.
Posted by Game2620
Canada
Member since Dec 2013
1385 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 7:51 pm to
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Show the screen shot of the open receiver? You can’t, all four receivers were tightly covered.


So it’s better than to take a sack rather than to attempt a pass and give your guy a chance to make a play or draw a PI? Worst case - FSU takes over at the one yard line.

I had hopes that JD5 improved over the offseason. So far no indication that he has. He doesn’t make the players around him better.
This post was edited on 9/4/23 at 7:52 pm
Posted by BallariSE
Member since Sep 2021
221 posts
Posted on 9/4/23 at 7:58 pm to
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For one, that is considered open in big boy football. It's his first read and that is an easy completion. It's a quick slant. Doesn't really have time to stare at him

Well that's great, but that's not even the guy he was staring down, he was staring down #11, who was off the screen at the bottom.
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This is just ticky tack. Daniels was trying to keep the play alive. Again, a situation that he has shown the ability to escape from.

It's a 13 yard sack when we would have had them at the 1.5 yard line. That's not ticky tack, that's a really bad play by him.
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blame the play design. Everything else was covered.

Do you have proof of this?
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