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Jalen Cook's Waiver Denied
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:03 pm
LSU has received the ruling from the NCAA denying Jalen Cook of eligibility for this upcoming season and has already put in an appeal:
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:13 pm to tigersham
Can he play during the pendency of the appeal?
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:16 pm to tigersham
Im still not sure why they thought they would get a waiver.
Waste of a roster spot.
Waste of a roster spot.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:17 pm to tigersham
Anyone should have saw this one coming. Didnt play in exhibition on Monday, lots of other 2nd time transfers getting denied left and right over last several weeks as well.
NCAA just continues to fall flat on their face with things opening up a 2nd time transfer process that is so gray area'd nobody knows if they will be eligible or not. There has to be a better way than this.
NCAA just continues to fall flat on their face with things opening up a 2nd time transfer process that is so gray area'd nobody knows if they will be eligible or not. There has to be a better way than this.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:17 pm to tigersham
Would this happen to a Kansas or Kentucky player?
No.
The NCAA is trash. Pretty funny our statement includes thanking the ncaa lol
No.
The NCAA is trash. Pretty funny our statement includes thanking the ncaa lol
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:19 pm to tigersham
Man, what an obsequious response.
I mean, say that you’re going to appeal and you want more transparency into the decision.
But also state your reasons why Jalen should be eligible and actually advocate for him in your statement.
Show a little backbone! Don’t actually THANK them for their long overdue response then compliment them on their hard work!
I mean, say that you’re going to appeal and you want more transparency into the decision.
But also state your reasons why Jalen should be eligible and actually advocate for him in your statement.
Show a little backbone! Don’t actually THANK them for their long overdue response then compliment them on their hard work!
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:19 pm to tigersham
Saw this coming with other recent verdicts.. back to the pit of misery we go
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:20 pm to thunderbird1100
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NCAA just continues to fall flat on their face with things opening up a 2nd time transfer process that is so gray area'd nobody knows if they will be eligible or not. There has to be a better way than this.
Genuine question because I haven't been keeping up with the rules around it, but what is the gray area? Like why did all of these players and teams believe that they would be granted a 2nd time transfer waiver?
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:20 pm to rutiger
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Im still not sure why they thought they would get a waiver.
Waste of a roster spot.
The NCAA didn't start cracking down on the second transfer until after Cook entered the portal and came to LSU.
LSU's argument is that Cook always wanted to be at LSU, was told to play elsewhere by the coach, and returned after the coach left. I don't think it gets him eligible but it's not as black and white as some other claims that have been denied.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:22 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
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Saw this coming with other recent verdicts.. back to the pit of misery we go
Why are people mad at the ncaa??
They made it very clear they werent granting waivers for 2nd time transfers.
Another mcmistake.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:22 pm to tigersham
The NCAA just simply does not have proper rules and these kids don't know if they can or can't transfer for a 2nd time and play. It's unfortunate and a clear indictment on how poorly operated the NCAA is an institution. "Putting the athlete first" give me a damn break.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:23 pm to skullhawk
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LSU's argument is that Cook always wanted to be at LSU, was told to play elsewhere by the coach, and returned after the coach left
Thats the reasoning???
Shocker it didnt get approved. /s
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:24 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
My only gripe is NCAA was approving everyone non stop and than all of a sudden changed the rules.
They should have communicated to players like Cook and Efton Reid and others that if you transfer you will not be eligible and they could have decided to stay where they were in order to play.
Cook may have stayed at Tulane had he known this was the decision and the best for him as a player would have been to stay at Tulane.
Now he is out of options and will have to sit a year for no reason. Maybe coming back to LSU was a better chance for him to finish his degree as well.
They should have communicated to players like Cook and Efton Reid and others that if you transfer you will not be eligible and they could have decided to stay where they were in order to play.
Cook may have stayed at Tulane had he known this was the decision and the best for him as a player would have been to stay at Tulane.
Now he is out of options and will have to sit a year for no reason. Maybe coming back to LSU was a better chance for him to finish his degree as well.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:24 pm to tigersham
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LSU has received the ruling from the NCAA denying Jalen Cook of eligibility
NCAA - 3
LSU - 0
Victory for the ruling they gave with Will Wade, 1 game suspension for Maason Smith, and now denying Cook his waiver. frick this institution.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:25 pm to skullhawk
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was told to play elsewhere by the coach
So this is another thing WW messed up? Noted.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:25 pm to tigersham
It sucks for both him and LSU, but it's hard to say this is a surprise. The NCAA was pretty clear when they came out in JANUARY saying the amount of 2x transfer waivers they would grant was going to be significantly reduced. Many players and coaches (not just Cook and McMahon) essentially called the NCAA on their perceived bluff...and they are coming up losers.
I don't know the basis of Cook's appeal, but it sounds like it was some sort of "mental health and well-being" argument (which has LONG jumped the shark, IMO) which I doubt will be reconsidered.
The next question I would have is how close is Cook to graduating? If there is a way he would graduate in December, perhaps there could be an argument for him to be eligible after graduation. The logic would be found in the Wright St. transfer's situation. Kid transfers from Wright St. to Ohio St. last season. After the season, he chooses to transfer from Ohio St. back to Wright St. At the time he had not received a degree from either school. So he was considered to be a 2x transfer not a grad transfer. He subsequently graduates from Wright St this summer. The NCAA grants his waiver because they now considered him a grad transfer instead of a 2x transfer.
Graduating in 3.5 years is not terribly uncommon. If I'm LSU and Cook, I think I would have tried to bust arse and graduate this December so I could petition to be eligible in December.
I don't know the basis of Cook's appeal, but it sounds like it was some sort of "mental health and well-being" argument (which has LONG jumped the shark, IMO) which I doubt will be reconsidered.
The next question I would have is how close is Cook to graduating? If there is a way he would graduate in December, perhaps there could be an argument for him to be eligible after graduation. The logic would be found in the Wright St. transfer's situation. Kid transfers from Wright St. to Ohio St. last season. After the season, he chooses to transfer from Ohio St. back to Wright St. At the time he had not received a degree from either school. So he was considered to be a 2x transfer not a grad transfer. He subsequently graduates from Wright St this summer. The NCAA grants his waiver because they now considered him a grad transfer instead of a 2x transfer.
Graduating in 3.5 years is not terribly uncommon. If I'm LSU and Cook, I think I would have tried to bust arse and graduate this December so I could petition to be eligible in December.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:28 pm to LSBoosie
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Genuine question because I haven't been keeping up with the rules around it, but what is the gray area? Like why did all of these players and teams believe that they would be granted a 2nd time transfer waiver?
Here's a quick blurb from the January rule changes:
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First, a player can receive immediate eligibility if they have a physical injury or mental health condition that pushed them to transfer from a school. Additionally, the NCAA will consider "exigent circumstances" that could force a player to leave an institution
"mental health" is a pretty BROAD all encompassing thing people can make claims to.
For that matter you can broaden out "exigent circumstances" too.
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:31 pm to ButchJonesFB
Put the athlete first?
How about don't be soft, accept competition, and work your tail off. We cater to these athletes too much now.
How about don't be soft, accept competition, and work your tail off. We cater to these athletes too much now.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:31 pm to skullhawk
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The NCAA didn't start cracking down on the second transfer until after Cook entered the portal and came to LSU.
That's not true at all.
The NCAA announced in January they were going to limit the 2x transfer waivers. The then published guidelines in March generally discussing the reasons they would or would not grant a waiver. Cook entered the portal in late March. He then announced he was transferring to LSU on April 7th. EVERYONE involved had knowledge of the NCAA's position at that time.
Cook and LSU took a shot anyway. It didn't work out
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:32 pm to tigersham
I hate it for LSU and Cook, but it’s the right thing for college sports. The new NCAA admin has made it a point not to grant these waivers all willy nilly and be consistent when previously not had just been so arbitrary.
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