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its not the system...
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:27 am
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:27 am
I've read a lot of opinions on what the issue is offensively: its the system, no its Harris, its the oline, its the play calling. All of which you guys have provided legit explanations for your opinions. I think its a combination of all, but i don't think the system thats the problem.
If you've ever played against this style of O that is ran in a physical manner, it sucks. You're constantly getting punched in the mouth. And by the 4th quarter you've had all you can take..... unless you haven't played many plays like the wisconsin D on saturday. The problem was, the O line was the softest i've ever seen since I've been watching lsu football.
Harris IS a problem. He isn't accurate on high percentage throws. If you cant accurately throw a 8 yard stop route, then you don't need to be playing the qb position. If they are going to stick with Harris at qb, which I'm sure they will, you can run this system out of the gun which would help him out a lot. Full back becomes an H back and now it looks more modern. Look, you can watch a spread team do things well and you say "wow they're good, we should be doing this", and another team run the same offense and do things badly and say "gah they suck". Its not what you're doing but how you're doing it.
If you've ever played against this style of O that is ran in a physical manner, it sucks. You're constantly getting punched in the mouth. And by the 4th quarter you've had all you can take..... unless you haven't played many plays like the wisconsin D on saturday. The problem was, the O line was the softest i've ever seen since I've been watching lsu football.
Harris IS a problem. He isn't accurate on high percentage throws. If you cant accurately throw a 8 yard stop route, then you don't need to be playing the qb position. If they are going to stick with Harris at qb, which I'm sure they will, you can run this system out of the gun which would help him out a lot. Full back becomes an H back and now it looks more modern. Look, you can watch a spread team do things well and you say "wow they're good, we should be doing this", and another team run the same offense and do things badly and say "gah they suck". Its not what you're doing but how you're doing it.
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:28 am to LSUfan00
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:29 am to LSUfan00
Quit playing on TD during school hours.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:29 am to LSUfan00
Dude.. it's not effective.
Have you seen this team in November?
It doesn't work against Arkansas, Alabama, or even Ole Miss' Dlines..
We are the ones getting punched in the mouth running right into a brick wall.
Go look at the sheer size of Alabama's Dline compared to our o-line. I was just noticing it off some old clips over the past few seasons.. Heh.. It's frightening.
Have you seen this team in November?
It doesn't work against Arkansas, Alabama, or even Ole Miss' Dlines..
We are the ones getting punched in the mouth running right into a brick wall.
Go look at the sheer size of Alabama's Dline compared to our o-line. I was just noticing it off some old clips over the past few seasons.. Heh.. It's frightening.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:29 am to LSUfan00
Makes sense to me.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:30 am to LSUfan00
So you're telling me Les is an offensive genius and Jefferson, Lee, Jennings, and Harris have been terrible terrible misses.
Not forgetting how many 4* QB's weren't even good enough to play here and transferred out.
It's definitely our recruiting. Not anything else
Not forgetting how many 4* QB's weren't even good enough to play here and transferred out.
It's definitely our recruiting. Not anything else
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:30 am to c on z
The O line sucks cause you 6 guys trying to block 9.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:32 am to LSUfan00
quote:
It's not the system
It's the coach/coaches
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:34 am to LSUfan00
quote:
Harris IS a problem. He isn't accurate on high percentage throws.
Bahahahahaha. Jennings couldn't either.
None of them can.. because they are properly coached or put into comfortable situations..
Dude any QB would struggle.. Look at FSU's true freshman qb last night.. He struggled early on.. and had he been in LSU's system.. he would struggle more and we'd never even know he was capable to come back like that..
Harris has actually shown he has the talent at times.. he would be more effective running an offense that fits his style.. he would even be a more effective runner out of the spread.
Again, I challenge you to go rewatch the end of the Mississippi St game when they finally brought in Harris because Jennings got destroyed on a hit with 3 minutes left in the game.
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Our quarterbacks play as if they are walking on eggshells.. it doesn't matter who it is.. unless it's a Senior they have full confidence in.. otherwise they don't know what they are doing.. and they aren't comfortable.. and that's coaching.. period. LSU could have any of those young qbs who had great games this weekend and they would all look just like the qbs we have been use to seeing..
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:37 am to LSUfan00
quote:
its not the system...
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:37 am to LSUfan00
quote:
its not the system...
I don't think anyone is naive enough to think that this offensive system isn't effective when run well. The problem everyone is bitching about is the lack competent play calling out of the system. Alabama and FSU both run similar offenses and are having success. It's not the system, it's the implementation of the system. There are maybe 10 pass plays you see. fricking TEN. They may flip the route from one side of the field to other but they are identical otherwise. The never spread the field or even think of trying to play matchups. You see nothing creative and never see combination or "rub" routes. It's pathetic to watch. I'm all for lining up and punching a team in the mouth, but you need balance and you need to exploit weaknesses. You can't assume you can run it down everyone's throat and drop a deep ball off of play action every now and then. THAT is what pisses everybody off and the reason Miles and Cameron need to pack their shite.
It's play calling and the inability to spread the field when they need to.
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 10:39 am
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:40 am to LSUfan00
I'm tired of analyzing EXACTLY where the problem is.
It's been a problem for years.
The buck stops with the head coach.
The head coach has to go.
It's been a problem for years.
The buck stops with the head coach.
The head coach has to go.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:41 am to timlan2057
It's the coach in charge of the system...
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:43 am to LSUfan00
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i don't think the system thats the problem.
Miles agrees with you. Everyone knows the problem was Perriloux, then it was Hatch's injury, then it was Lee, then it was Jefferson, then it was Mett for a little while, then it was Crowton, then it was Malveto (but never Peveto), then it was Jennings, then it was Chief, then it was Harris, then it was Steele, now it's Harris again.
Man, all these other coaches who are rolling out pretty damned capable underclassmen must be super lucky to have not been plagued with such a string of bad quarterbacks and coordinators.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:44 am to LSUfan00
We have the highest paid OC in the country. 
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:45 am to LSUfan00
They do run out of the shotgun all the time!
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:45 am to beauchristopher
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Harris has actually shown he has the talent at times
Both Jennings and Harris shined, and played huge, when they were thrust into action. Their play declined, markedly, once they started getting "coaching" to be the starter.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:59 am to timlan2057
Maybe Miles talks to his team like he talks to the fans. Garbled. No one, including the media understands Les. We all thought he told us that he had adjusted his offense, and Harris had grown and has confidence. Apparently we misunderstood him again.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:01 am to LSUfan00
HI Les
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:01 am to LSUfan00
It's effective against shite teams with no depth, but put it up against talented teams with dept and even halfway decent coaching and you're completely fricked.
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