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re: It's not "just 1 game" people
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:31 am to PaperTiger
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:31 am to PaperTiger
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The point is that FSU took a leap of faith per se with Fisher with 0 head coaching experience. A top 25 team took a coach with no experience.
Well, hiring someone with zero head coaching experience but who is thought of as an up and comer is not even remotely the same thing as hiring a 50 something career DL coach who in his lone opportunity to be a HC had a career winning % of below .300
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He went 9-4 and then 10-4 in his first two years. Would this be acceptable to you?
If it was on an unproven up and comer, yes. If on a career DL coach with a sub .300 winning % then hell no, he gets no trust from me that he can build or maintain a program.
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But then he went to USC, served as DC
He has never been a DC
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But then he went to USC, served as DC and then what, 4-2 at USC the following 6 games when he became interim coach? So I think the ability is there. He definitely learned a little.
Everything that has been posted supporting this man says that his interim record no longer counts. Everyone keeps saying this is his 1st loss at LSU
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:33 am to The Pirate King
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Yes, it is. It will count as one loss, and nothing is off the table for the season. The rest of the emotional, anecdotal crap is just stuff "fans" like you add to make it seem like a bigger deal than it is. Whether we lost by 1 or 30, we still lost.
This isn't the NFL where a 1 point and 30 point loss count the same.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:50 am to Draconian Sanctions
For one, you are lying. Secondly, if what you said was true (it isn't), you must have quite the practice going where you can play on this board all morning. Lmao
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:51 am to The Godfather
I thought our talk earlier would help you. Looks like it didn't. Still melting. Hang in there pal.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:53 am to The Godfather
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Well, hiring someone with zero head coaching experience but who is thought of as an up and comer...
Agree. I said it's almost the same. Not exactly the same. But it's close. What did Kirby do last year at Georgia after Richt got canned (maybe that's the better example)? 8-5. Would that be acceptable to you?
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If it was on an unproven up and comer, yes. If on a career DL coach with a sub .300 winning % then hell no, he gets no trust from me that he can build or maintain a program.
Just for arguments sake why would you have more faith in an unproven coach than one that actually has Ws (not many but some
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He has never been a DC
My fault. You are correct. I thought he was.
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Everything that has been posted supporting this man says that his interim record no longer counts. Everyone keeps saying this is his 1st loss at LSU
I didn't. So this can't be used in this argument. This is his first loss this season. If you are head coach, you are head coach.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:57 am to I20goon
Yes....but just don't know if there is fire in some of our players. Key is baffling to me...overweight and out of shape....with this being his money year. Also, hell, rumor is that they had to talk Malone into playing this year.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:57 am to TheCaterpillar
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Jimbo didn't already have a track record as the worst HC in the history of a conference though
Post I responded to.
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He had no head coach exp at all and he took over a premier college football program.
It's almost exactly like the LSU situation
He would be Fisher. Note the almost in bold. Not exactly, but almost exactly. O has some experience, Fisher had none.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:58 am to Mo Jeaux
Hey little buddy. I'm guessing you are all smiles these days.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:22 am to PaperTiger
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What did Kirby do last year at Georgia after Richt got canned (maybe that's the better example)? 8-5. Would that be acceptable to you?
In year one and if you can see its heading in the right direction, yes...getting blown out by 30 to Mississippi State...not really
but more so with a unproven coach who is finding his way than a coach that has proven in the past that he doesnt have it to be a HC. quote:
Just for arguments sake why would you have more faith in an unproven coach than one that actually has Ws (not many but some )
Its the unknown, he could turn out to be the next Saban or Meyer (For the record, i think that is PJ Fleck and I could be wrong) on the flip side he could turn out to be the next Ed Orgeron.
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I didn't. So this can't be used in this argument. This is his first loss this season. If you are head coach, you are head coach.
Fair enough
Posted on 9/19/17 at 7:11 pm to The Godfather
Since 2011 5 of the 6 had one loss. Now if we get our arse handed to us in a couple of weeks in the SWAMP then I would press the panic button. But until then relax!
2016: Clemson 14-1
2015: Alabama 14-1
2014: Ohio State: 14-1
2013: FSU 14-0
2012: Alabama: 13-1
2011: Alabama: 12-1
2016: Clemson 14-1
2015: Alabama 14-1
2014: Ohio State: 14-1
2013: FSU 14-0
2012: Alabama: 13-1
2011: Alabama: 12-1
Posted on 9/19/17 at 7:26 pm to Dawgfan128
I do hope I'm wrong. Truly.
Just because I can separate my heart from my head doesn't mean I'm less of a fan.
Just because I can separate my heart from my head doesn't mean I'm less of a fan.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 8:57 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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It's not "just 1 game" people
Technically of course you are wrong.
I suppose we will see if you are correct going forward. I think we aren't as talented as people think. I do think that the more talented players are the younger players. They are getting tons of playing time. Not since 2000 has this many freshman gotten this much time (yes SOME freshman played under CLM, but they were generally VERY talented). To me, this season will revolve around our coaches in seeing how far along they can bring the youth. The reality is, we have not been an elite team for awhile as nine or ten wins, while nice, is not elite. Let's see how this plays out. If we look like shite, then warm up Orgeron's seat.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:00 pm to Draconian Sanctions
The sky is falling!!! Everyone panic!!!
Posted on 9/19/17 at 9:23 pm to deftones
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Since 2011 5 of the 6 had one loss. Now if we get our arse handed to us in a couple of weeks in the SWAMP then I would press the panic button. But until then relax!
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2016: Clemson 14-1
2015: Alabama 14-1
2014: Ohio State: 14-1
2013: FSU 14-0
2012: Alabama: 13-1
2011: Alabama: 12-1
Pretty sure none of those teams lost their 1 game to a far inferior team by 30 points and looked completely lost doing it.
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:08 pm to AshLSU
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2016: Clemson 14-1 2015: Alabama 14-1 2014: Ohio State: 14-1 2013: FSU 14-0 2012: Alabama: 13-1 2011: Alabama: 12-1
2016: Pitt
2014: Va Tech
They are a real inferior teams! Just saying that the season is not over. Still plenty of football left to play. Jesus lets see what happens!
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:30 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Orgeron is a mental midget. JT Curtis, Jay Roth, or Hank Tierney would be just as good
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:39 pm to PaperTiger
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The rant melts even after a W sometimes
Sometimes? Damn near all the time.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 1:26 am to Draconian Sanctions
Sorry but in fact it is "only 1 game". Nomatter how much you ANTIFOs cry about it no matter how many mental gymnastics you do to convince everyone Saturday night killed the program the NCAAA will not add another loss to our record. Insane ANTIFO fan logic.... LSUs record after Saturday 2-11.
LSUs record in reality 2-1. It's 1 game and it's not even the worst loss in the past few seasons. It's the same record Miles started his career with and the exact same way (a historically bad loss to Tenn). Once we beat Syracuse Saturday it'll be a better start to the season than 2 of the last three years. Grow the frick up ppl.
LSUs record in reality 2-1. It's 1 game and it's not even the worst loss in the past few seasons. It's the same record Miles started his career with and the exact same way (a historically bad loss to Tenn). Once we beat Syracuse Saturday it'll be a better start to the season than 2 of the last three years. Grow the frick up ppl.
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