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re: Isn't a little ironic that with all at stake a toss dive is called ?

Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59053 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:31 pm to
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How bout a gif of the whole play instead of a still shot before the while play developed?

A fake doesn't have to be demonstrative. Hell our play action fakes aren't even remotely close to looking like a hand off.

Just Moore running into the line is enough.

Also if it's supposed to look like Morrell is taking the dive the line will block similar to a dive play.



You're a special kind of stupid.
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7636 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:32 pm to
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Lulz. You're retarded. Kind of hard for you to pump for O now, huh?



Except I haven't pumped for O. I want Herman or Jimbo.

Unfortunately Herman is a pipe dream because of Texas.

I'm scared that we will be stuck with O though because Alleva likely hasn't done his job.
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7636 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:33 pm to
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You're a special kind of stupid



wow Mr keyboard commando.

It fairly obvious dipshit it was not a toss dive called.

Guice was more worried about pumping the crowd than remembering the play

Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278663 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:34 pm to
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A fake doesn't have to be demonstrative. Hell our play action fakes aren't even remotely close to looking like a hand off.




when Etling turns to the right and pitches directly, and Moore runs behind him, there is no fake involved.

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Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278663 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:35 pm to
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It fairly obvious dipshit it was not a toss dive called.




What do you think was called?

watch the video i just posted. The blocking tells you everything. the play was a toss dive designed to go between the tackles, not outside or whatever you are trying to say
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:42 pm to
I think it's ironic that JD Moore can't block a DB at the line of scrimmage.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64730 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:46 pm to
Guice is not a power back. Why would you go inside. Etling pitched it where Guice went.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64730 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:47 pm to
The blocking left one man to beat on the outside.

Etling was turned enough to get Guice the ball going to the outside. Guice took it inside.
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 2:50 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278663 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:48 pm to
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Guice is not a power back.



the frick he isnt. He's 220 lbs


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Why would you go inside. Etling pitched it where Guice went.



cause the play was designed to go inside.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72934 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:50 pm to
same shite at end of Ut 2010 that worked........of course only after Lee completed a 4th and 16 to keep last drive alive AND after too many men on field for UT!

Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4644 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:51 pm to
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The blocking tells you everything. the play was a toss dive designed to go between the tackles, not outside or whatever you are trying to say
Watch the video again and pay attention to the blocking on the left side of the line and Etling. 100% the call was a toss to be run outside the tackles to the left. Etling turned around and was expecting Guice to be behind him and to his right after turning around, and he wasn't. Moreau was blocking for an outside the tackles run.
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 2:55 pm
Posted by HighRoller
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
4193 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:52 pm to
O even said after the game that Guice went the wrong way. Supposed to go outside.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278663 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:53 pm to
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tling turned around and was expecting Guice to be behind him and to his right after turning around, and he wasn't.




why didnt Etling turn to his left if the play was designed to go left to the outside?
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64730 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:54 pm to
misdirection you pine for.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278663 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:55 pm to
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misdirection you pine for.




who was supposed to go right to give the look of a misdirection?
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64730 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:56 pm to
Etling
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4644 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:56 pm to
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why didnt Etling turn to his left if the play was designed to go left to the outside?
Misdirection. Watch Etling's head. He swings around fully to the right before going back left and tossing. Also, the "fake" part was the blocking all inside while Moreau sealed the edge for the outside run.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64730 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:58 pm to
LSU ran a play with Guice earlier for a score but with a hand off inside with fullback blocking on his outside. This was not supposed to go inside.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278663 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 3:01 pm to
Either way, I can see if he was supposed to go left, but not outside. Orgeron said it was a "short toss", so not a sweep. He was supposed to run between the tackles, and if that called for a cutback left, I can see it. Still weird to see Etling turn to the right to pitch a ball left when no other players were part of the misdirection. Ive seen that with a fake to the FB but never a 1 player misdirection with the QB.
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 3:03 pm
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23394 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 3:02 pm to
It was poorly executed, but it was definitely supposed to be an outside run. They ran the same damn play last week in a short yardage situation to Guice, except they actually did the fake handoff to the FB before the pitchout. He slipped a tackle in the backfield and took it for a long gainer.

It was pretty clear to me in the video that Etling was surprised that Guice wasn't where he expected and adjusted. I thought the play looked "wrong" the first time I saw it, and watching in slow motion has done nothing to change that.
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