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Is there a code of ethics for football coaches that coach against a former team?
Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:50 pm
Is it unethical or free game to use Steel's knowledge of players, tendencies, and scheme?
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Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:51 pm to baobabtiger
I'm sure it's free game...
Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:51 pm to baobabtiger
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This post was edited on 3/15/21 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:51 pm to baobabtiger
You serious Clark?
Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:51 pm to DocBugbear
Chavis is going to know all our offensive tendencies...
He's going to know we run the ball...
He's going to know we run the ball...
Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:52 pm to baobabtiger
No LSU pays him to win. If prior knowledge helps us edge out bama then so be it.
Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:53 pm to DocBugbear
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Chavis is going to know all our offensive tendencies...
He's going to know we run the ball...
Yep, and there's not a fricking thing his sorry arse defense can do about it.
Posted on 10/24/15 at 11:25 pm to baobabtiger
I don't know that it's as big an advantage as some think. Same with Chavis against us. Steele never had to gameplan against Bama's offense, because they never played themselves. Same with Chavis. He never had to scout and scheme against LSU's offense because he never played them. Steele and Chavis are both probably more familiar with Auburn/Ole Miss/Arkansas, etc...than their former teams.
Posted on 10/24/15 at 11:32 pm to Hot Carl
I find that hard to believe because you're going to learn the offensive philosophy and some of the player's strengths, weaknesses, and tendencies just by large amount of proximity. He practiced against the guys daily and attended meetings for game planning against other teams. It certainly doesn't hurt to have a coach who has been on the other sideline.
Posted on 10/24/15 at 11:35 pm to GoldenD
Tendencies are in the tapes.
Posted on 10/24/15 at 11:37 pm to Hot Carl
quote:spring training, off season 7 on 7, and preseason practices are all about offense vs defense, so I'm sure Steele is very familiar with Kiffin's offense just like Kiffin is familiar with Steele's defense.
I don't know that it's as big an advantage as some think. Same with Chavis against us. Steele never had to gameplan against Bama's offense, because they never played themselves. Same with Chavis. He never had to scout and scheme against LSU's offense because he never played them. Steele and Chavis are both probably more familiar with Auburn/Ole Miss/Arkansas, etc...than their former teams.
Posted on 10/24/15 at 11:37 pm to Jcorye1
Of course, but you can't say that extra exposure via being in meetings and practices as part of the previous teams staff doesn't assist.
Posted on 10/24/15 at 11:39 pm to 7thWardTiger
quote:Except that he was just the LB coach at Bama so it was Saban's/Smart's defense.
Steele's defense.
Posted on 10/24/15 at 11:49 pm to baobabtiger
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Is there a code of ethics for football coaches that coach against a former team?
Is this real life?
Yea. Steele has to call the game from home blindfolded.
This post was edited on 10/24/15 at 11:51 pm
Posted on 10/24/15 at 11:56 pm to GoldenD
Why would John Chavis be in LSU's offensive meetings? 
Of course he knows LSU's personnel by being around them, but I guarantee he has scrutinized more of the other SEC West teams than LSU. Scheme wise, I mean. He likely has a pretty healthy understanding of what Miles likes to do, but after 10 years, who doesn't? And I don't think Steele has any sort of insight into Saban's head that's not already known. Terminology is the only legitimate thing that could give one an advantage here, but I'd be shocked if Saban and Miles haven't thought of that by game week.
Of course he knows LSU's personnel by being around them, but I guarantee he has scrutinized more of the other SEC West teams than LSU. Scheme wise, I mean. He likely has a pretty healthy understanding of what Miles likes to do, but after 10 years, who doesn't? And I don't think Steele has any sort of insight into Saban's head that's not already known. Terminology is the only legitimate thing that could give one an advantage here, but I'd be shocked if Saban and Miles haven't thought of that by game week.
Posted on 10/24/15 at 11:59 pm to baobabtiger
Steele and Chavis would know what mistakes their former linebackers are prone to make. They could help the offense exploit these things.
Posted on 10/25/15 at 12:07 am to baobabtiger
You coach to win period.
There is no holding back for a former team.. It's their job to make the adjustments needed..
There is no holding back for a former team.. It's their job to make the adjustments needed..
Posted on 10/25/15 at 12:14 am to DocBugbear
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Steele and Chavis would know what mistakes their former linebackers are prone to make. They could help the offense exploit these things.
That's fair and that makes more sense than giving insight into the offenses. But still, I think this "advantage" is clearly overrated. It's minimal at best.
Posted on 10/25/15 at 1:28 am to baobabtiger
Are you kidding?! I assume that's the main reason Miles hired Steele.
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