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Is Miles really that great historically in terms of losses per year?

Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:17 pm
Posted by spiderman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:17 pm
People like to tout that Miles has six 10-win seasons and LSU only had 13 or so prior to his arrival. This is not an accurate measuring stick b/c for decades LSU only played 10 or fewer games and the schedules of the last 20 yrs or so are stacked with 3 automatic wins.

The true measuring stick for Miles is losses per season. A team with fewer than 2 losses has undoubtedly had a great season. Miles has only had 1 season with fewer than 2 losses. Since LSU started playing at least a 9 game schedule they have had 14 seasons w/ fewer than 2 losses:
2011, 2003, 1987, 1969, 1962, 1961, 1958, 1946,1936, 1933, 1921, 1916, 1913 and 1908.

Miles has only managed to do it once in 9 years. Below the LSU average if you look at LSU history. From 1908 through 2004, LSU averaged a season with fewer than 2 losses every 7.46 years.

So, while Miles may be a very good coach and wins lots of games, he rarely has a great season by LSU historical standards when looking at losses. No matter how loaded we are with talent, he just can't seam to lose fewer than 2 games. Do you think this can change in the next few years with the loaded freshman class coming in or should we expect more of the same from Miles
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:19 pm to
i parked my car right here
Posted by rmnldr
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:19 pm to
No one likes you
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

People like to tout that Miles has six 10-win seasons and LSU only had 13 or so prior to his arrival. This is not an accurate measuring stick b/c for decades LSU only played 10 or fewer games and the schedules of the last 20 yrs or so are stacked with 3 automatic wins.


So 11-2 seasons are terrible? Saban only had one season here with fewer than two losses.
Posted by deSandman
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:20 pm to
Do other message boards allow posters like this?
Posted by Sampson
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by MoneyShot
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:20 pm to
So you hold 10 win seasons against him because they play more games but completely ignore the fact that with up to 3 fewer games played there is less opportunity to lose. Seems legit.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:21 pm to
To finish with 2 losses during the peak of a conference's undoubted dominance over the real of college football is really, really hard.
Posted by LSUnKaty
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by spiderman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

Saban only had one season here with fewer than two losses.
He had 1 in 5 years. Miles has been here almost twice the amount of seasons as Saban with the same amount fewer than 2 loss seasons.
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

He had 1 in 5 years. Miles has been here almost twice the amount of seasons as Saban with the same amount fewer than 2 loss seasons.


And how many seasons did Saban lose more than 2 games in those five years?
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:23 pm to
Your act is getting exhausting. Just saying.

You can be objective all you want and dislike Miles, but you don't have to keep harping on it and pushing it in our faces.
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 2:24 pm
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:23 pm to
What you're saying has some merit, but Miles' legacy comes down to this:

If he wins two more SECCs and one more NC, he can rightfully be considered the best coach in LSU history. Win/Loss record is important but mostly secondary filler. The point is to win championships and that's how a coach should be judged.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

A team with fewer than 2 losses has undoubtedly had a great season.


I love how you just made up this parameter to fit your agenda
Posted by AnonymousTiger
Franklin, TN
Member since Jan 2012
4863 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:26 pm to
Number of losses is not a fair comparison any more than number of 10 win seasons. Why don't you try to compare individual season win percentages and see how he stacks up compared to historical data.
Posted by adhd
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:26 pm to
douche!!

Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

He had 1 in 5 years. Miles has been here almost twice the amount of seasons as Saban with the same amount fewer than 2 loss seasons.

And outside of his one season with less than 2 losses, Saban had at least 3 losses every other year.
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 2:27 pm
Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:27 pm to
I think you should rework your theory, but at fewer than 3 losses.

As we all know it is possible to win a NC with 2 losses. I would like to see how those numbers shake out...
Posted by rossman
Member since Dec 2003
907 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

So you hold 10 win seasons against him because they play more games but completely ignore the fact that with up to 3 fewer games played there is less opportunity to lose. Seems legit.


This! Although, I don't think the OP is smart enough to understand.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:27 pm to
does it hurt being that stupid?
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