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Is it now obvious that it's not the QB as much as it is the OFFENSE?

Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:34 pm
Posted by 228Tiger
Harrison County
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:34 pm
Lee, Jefferson, now Mettenberger

All highly rated quarterbacks..all underperformers when implemented into the LSU offense. While they never really played lights out, isn't it more the offense than the quarterback? And hasn't stagnant offensive play really infected the confidence of the entire offense?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:35 pm to
well jefferson regressed after we tried to make him a running QB and lee didn't have a good mental makeup after 2008
This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 1:36 pm
Posted by BhamBengal
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2012
2476 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:35 pm to
Yes. But pocket presence would help
Posted by 228Tiger
Harrison County
Member since Feb 2012
12112 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:36 pm to
He was thrown to the wolves in a clown offense in 2008. Didn't help that he had self esteem issues but i'm sure getting railed that season didn't help his psychological makeup
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

He was thrown to the wolves in a clown offense in 2008.

our offense in 2008 wasn't that bad, actually

Posted by 228Tiger
Harrison County
Member since Feb 2012
12112 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:39 pm to
Our current offense makes Crowton's look like the 2000 St. Louis Rams
Posted by VesperiaLSU
Baton Rouge Tigerland
Member since Sep 2010
1192 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:39 pm to
I still think it's on both parts. Our offensive scheme is rudimentary and uninspiring, and can become predictable regardless whether we run or pass. Our coaching staff don't know how to utilize the talent we have and did a bad job correcting their mistakes. That being said, Mett's slow feet, Jefferson't panic, and Lee's fear for contact are on their own. They are not very legitimate SEC QB eiter.
Posted by Child of the Missip
Member since May 2012
1522 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:41 pm to
We are QB spoilers... We take a good QB and teach them nothing and then throw them to the wolves.

Mett made horrible reads last year! Absolutely horrible. He's garbage but it's not his fault.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
34842 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:42 pm to
Manning and Brady could not have run the offense this year.
Posted by 228Tiger
Harrison County
Member since Feb 2012
12112 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:43 pm to
Mettenberger has an absolute cannon of an arm..if we had a couple big wideouts, 1 big TE + Landry, we would be set


Oh, and the right side of our o-line not getting molested would help too
Posted by Matisyeezy
End of the bar, Drunk
Member since Feb 2012
16624 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

Manning and Brady could not have run the offense this year


Well that's just not true. I have as many problems with our scheme as the next person, but execution has been pretty horrid too. If you have a QB that hits on the throws he desperately needs to hit, we score at least 7 more points in every game, most likely. 7 is admittedly an arbitrary number, but I feel like we've seen at least one overthrow on a deep ball that could have been a TD per game.
Posted by LSUANDY25
Frisco
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3087 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:51 pm to
Dead On! Nice post.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

well jefferson regressed after we tried to make him a running QB and lee didn't have a good mental makeup after 2008



Both he and Lee got thrown into a bad situation in 2008.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61758 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:56 pm to
It is 100% the offensive philosophy. We telegraph our plays by our formations and personnel. Other teams, even with weaker defenses, can game plan to slow us down and make every hard for our offense a struggle.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 1:58 pm to
Our defense was so bad in 08 it put too much pressure on a rookie quarterback.

If Tennessee had not fired Fulmer, therefore making Chavis available, Miles would probably have been history at LSU by now.
Posted by tigerbait3488
River Ridge
Member since Dec 2007
10445 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:04 pm to
Vesperia is dead in- solid post. I couldnt have set it better.
Posted by kevv824
Member since Sep 2006
2386 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:12 pm to
Of course it's the offense. Our playcalling fricking sucks!
Posted by Night Train
Member since Aug 2009
333 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:22 pm to
10-4, Why would any top WR or QB prospect want to play for the stubborn SOB of a coach we have? Les will never change in that regard guys. The Les Miles philosophy is to get a lead 1 point or 30 points and have our offense just lay down and have our defense get their dicks kicked in the rest of game. I'm sure that's very popular with players. Miles could hit the frikin road any day his time has passed. That shite last night was as embarrassing as last years bowl for the players and school.
This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 2:24 pm
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14682 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

. It is 100% the offensive philosophy. We telegraph our plays by our formations and personnel. Other teams, even with weaker defenses, can game plan to slow us down and make every hard for our offense a struggle..


Truth to this. Quick.... Fords in. What are we running? A sweep. Hill? Off tackle? Ware? Quick toss up the middle or a screen depending on down and distance. It got fairly predictable. And with an O line that wasn't dominate we couldn't dictate our will on anyone.
This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 2:29 pm
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:31 pm to
LSU is giving up like 330 yds a game passing the ball in our last 4 games and gave up leads in both L's in the last min of each game, but lets talk OC.

Talk bout not being able to see the forest for the trees.

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