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If you are coaching against LSU and LSU has a 3rd and 17

Posted on 11/11/08 at 3:07 pm
Posted by raparoot
Central, LA
Member since Dec 2007
1652 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 3:07 pm
and you also know as most media and LSU fans know that their first 15 or so offensive plays are already "scripted", do you play conservative and not rush? The correct answer is.... Yes. Why would you rush when you know that they are gonna either run the ball or throw a 10 yard route like the one that Bird couldn't catch in the first qtr. The point I'm trying to make is this...... Scripted plays usually suck. Did LSU use this same gameplan last year? If they did then I must apologize. Either LSU was lucky last year or Miles and Crowton are both considered brilliant. Help me out here fellas.
This post was edited on 11/11/08 at 3:09 pm
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 3:09 pm to
We would script the first few series when Saban was here with Fisher as well.
Posted by ready4something
virginia beach
Member since Jul 2008
6541 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 3:13 pm to
I would blitz the hell out of Jarrett Lee knowing he will sit in the pocket and

A. Take the lick causing a fumble or int
B. See him throw the ball into the deep center of the field to a waiting safety in a track runner stance for the endzone
c. See him thrown into double/triple coverage that results in a pick 6
D. See him throw the ball into the rb that is covered by the entire defensive line.
E. Sit back in a zone great odds he will under/overthrow the pass to a rb in the flat or to wr running slant that results in a devastating hit that causes a waiting lb to have a free run into the endzone resulting in all the offense the team needs.

Either way 3rd and long for lsu is good odds to help my team put points on the board
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 3:15 pm to
So you're going to blitz him but there is still going to be a wide receiver in a spread formation with triple coverage? How many guys is the team playing with on defense ready4?
Posted by hardhitten07
opelousas, la.
Member since Jul 2004
359 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 3:16 pm to
I would be telling my kicking team to get ready for the extra point after the pick six.....
Posted by ready4something
virginia beach
Member since Jul 2008
6541 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

So you're going to blitz him but there is still going to be a wide receiver in a spread formation with triple coverage? How many guys is the team playing with on defense ready4?


I know with an average qb you have to worry about him hitting the hot route. With Lee he's throwing to the primary regardless, ie see 1st int, see second int, see third int when saban blitzed him in full view no adjustments were made that i could see, and last the 4th int with lafell double covered and byrd working one on one coming across the field open for atleast a first down. The best thing you will not ever have to use a lb or safety to spy on the qb.
This post was edited on 11/11/08 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90449 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

I would be telling my kicking team to get ready for the extra point after the pick six.....
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

I know with an average qb you have to worry about him hitting the hot route. With Lee he's throwing to the primary regardless, ie see 1st int, see second int, see third int when saban blitzed him in full view no adjustments were made that i could see, and last the 4th int with lafell double covered and byrd working one on one coming across the field open for atleast a first down.


Lafell wasn't the first option on the 4th interception.

With that said, I'm just noting your stance that you would blitz but he would throw into triple coverage. I would assume we would be lining up in a four wide set with Scott in to pass protect so I was just wondering how sending two or three guys on a blitz is going to put a receiver with triple coverage on him in that situation.
Posted by Gus Tinsley
NW LA.
Member since May 2008
3346 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

quote:


I would be telling my kicking team to get ready for the extra point after the pick six.....


I hate to laugh but that was also my first thought and I am one who like Lee!!
Posted by ready4something
virginia beach
Member since Jul 2008
6541 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 3:43 pm to
Lafell wasn't the first option on the 4th interception.

quote:

With that said, I'm just noting your stance that you would blitz but he would throw into triple coverage. I would assume we would be lining up in a four wide set with Scott in to pass protect so I was just wondering how sending two or three guys on a blitz is going to put a receiver with triple coverage on him in that situation.



I don't know how to draw it up, but it seems regardless of how many men the other team is sending Lee is finding the receiver with 2 or 3 defenders draped all over them.
Posted by Suncoastiger
Tampa, FL
Member since Sep 2008
27 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 5:53 pm to
All you do is if you are playing defense vs LSU is play a base defense and just wait for Jarrett Lee to throw an INT. He'll do it. Just be patient if you are on defense.
Posted by silstang23
Bossier City, LA
Member since Oct 2007
4957 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 6:27 pm to
Don't rush or blitz Lee. Let him throw the ball. An interception is better than a sack. Especially a pick 6.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53770 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 6:28 pm to
draw play and punt!
Posted by kltiger
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
214 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 8:51 pm to
in the bama game--anybody just anybody must be thinking do not have an int on the first series- but no we throw on 3rd and 17-- all we had to do was run a draw and punt - but not had to throw- nothing but stupid with lee in the game- we had a break and gave it right back to them.
Posted by Geauxing for 3
TX Tiger
Member since Mar 2008
1947 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 9:19 pm to
punt on 3rd down
Posted by mbertaut
Prairieville
Member since Oct 2008
62 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 9:30 pm to
I'd play contain with my defensive line, tight coverage with the OLB's and CB's on the OUTSIDE and play very loose in the middle, to make sure he threw it there.

Then I'd wait to see which Safety or ILB got to make the catch.

Dammit!
Posted by nhsj012
Member since Aug 2008
2975 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 9:36 pm to
twist d line,send 1 lb, and play a cover 1 robber behind it.

btw i think pretty much every team scripts their first 5-15 plays including jr high to the pros. the offense can practice the hell out of those plays and visualize against different defenses.
This post was edited on 11/11/08 at 9:38 pm
Posted by eshorefan
Daphne, AL
Member since Dec 2007
827 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 10:37 pm to
Hell no...you send the house.

All you have to is watch the film of Jarrett Lee to see he is scared to death of pressure.

He'll throw an interception or throw the ball in the dirt 'cause he doesn't want to get hit.

Jordan Jefferson needs to see the field NOW.

Just my $0.02...flame away!
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